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Spartan
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Post subject: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:34 am |
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My name is z0d on server HERA
Man that was the funnest thing i have ever done in any game
Now i don't usually go on this site but i saw how you guys saying "spiral farked us over" and shit like that and it comes offensive to me because i am part of spiral..
BloodOwnzzz -- you are so Farking gay its unbelievable.. you QUIT HERA at level 30 (first week of HERA) you turned your back on LEGITS and so you lost your right to say anything about this server .. also you don't know what goes on in game so go die
To everyone else that is saying spiral back stabbed legits or the epic union you can go suck a big fat one because we didn't back stab anyone.. The players of SPIRAL decided on the decision of leaving the union.. We left the union once before and rejoined and Zeeky said if we leave again we will not rejoin and that is what happen.. ALSO like Zeeky said before, the guild had no obligation to make this server LEGIT..
My decision was that i did not care and i went with majority of spiral who agreed to leaving the union because I really do not care if legits win FW or not anymore.. There is way too much drama for a Farking game between the legits.. i play this game to have fun not log in to find arguing again and again every day.. SPIRAL is a legit guild and i am happy being in it.. It does not mean we are now a botting guild because we are in a botting union..
SO WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS, IF YOUR NOT PART OF THIS SERVER ( HERA ) THEN SHUT THE **** UP.
ALSO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SPIRAL LEAVING EPIC UNION UNLESS YOU WERE ONLINE EVERY DAY LISTENING TO ALL THE Farking NOT NEEDED DRAMA.
I still love all the LEGITS on HERA, i just don't like Farking drama.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:38 am |
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careful who your talking to z0d, when you guys were in the vengeance/epic union, i was there and i know exactly how you guys act. So what i say is not made up.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:39 am |
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wings151 wrote: careful who your talking to z0d, when you guys were in the vengeance/epic union, i was there and i know exactly how you guys act. So what i say is not made up. whats your in game name?
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:42 am |
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doesnt matter now does it? I was in the union, and yes i know there was a bunch of pointless drama over some of the most retarded things i've ever heard. But Spiral had this 'im superior' attitude and i know for a fact, that you guys did not help the vengeance/epic union. You guys just had your own groups and ignored everyone else.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:49 am |
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actually it really matters a whole lot what your in game name is because i cannot talk to you without knowing your level and in game name because you could be level 40 or 50 and so that means you have no clue what is going on party wise so until you tell me your in game name i cannot respond to you because i don't feel like explaining a month of what happened by the way check this video out.. now that is what i call ownage.. a party of 5/8 SPIRAL members take out MOST OF MARVEL UNION LMFAO at 4:30, the other 3/8 of the party were inside.. so watch 5 people take em out (Kain, Didino, Zeeky, z0d, and GrapeSoda) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNYWOfcXyAgthe power of europeans lol EDIT: I have heard from an anonymous source that your ingame name is Kagome. YOU Farking DUMB BITCH.. NOW guys this is what i mean.. are you serious about talking about the union? level 42 get the **** out my face.. your dirt in my eyes EDIT#2: This is why i don't read this site.. what a Farking waste of time.. I like what you SRF mods are doing but im talking about the people in this section (HERA).. so dont take it as disrespect SRF
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:21 am |
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true, spiral helped very little to epic union, u just stayed wit ur own little grinding group. i heard divinedust left, good for her. z0d, just cuz u'r in a powerful union and u'r high lvl doesn't give u ne right to mouth off, looks like the power got to u too 
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:30 am |
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TOloseGT wrote: true, spiral helped very little to epic union, u just stayed wit ur own little grinding group. i heard divinedust left, good for her. z0d, just cuz u'r in a powerful union and u'r high lvl doesn't give u ne right to mouth off, looks like the power got to u too  Its just funny to me that all these low levels that don't know what is going on except in chat think they know what they are talking about.. Yes i say the power has gotten to me but i feel that i deserve it after putting all this effort into my character.. I have heard from an anonymous source that your in game name is Atmosph3re (level 52) I have put my time and money into this game. One of spiral guild's rules are that if a spiral member needs a party and the party is not 8/8 spiral members there will be space made. I LOVE SPIRAL. SPIRAL IS MY FAMILY ON HERA. I WILL FIGHT FOR SPIRAL. This section named HERA is disrespecting me and my family on HERA. Since you are not level 64+ you have no say about anything party wise. So SHUT THE **** UP. Every player on HERA is alright with leaving for a spiral member. We say this rule everytime a new person wants to join the party and they agree to it INCLUDING epic union members. EDIT: If you are under level 64 your post is considered SPAM. DO NOT POST IF YOU ARE UNDER 64 BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT WHATS GOING ON.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:44 am |
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GET YOUR ASS ONTO GREECE THEN, I WILL DROP YOU FASTER THAN A Farking TON OF BRICKS. YOU THINK YOUR ALL THAT, YOUR NOT, YOU EUROS ARE SHIT, WITHOUT YOUR Farking CLERIC BEHIND YOU, YOU GUYS ARE PAPER WEIGHT. YOU WANT TO TRY ME? GO AHEAD, YOU GUYS THINK YOUR TOUGH SHIT, BUT YOUR NOT, SO STFU ABOUT ALL YOUR HIGH AND MIGHTY.
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Since you were in the union before, i can tell you, **** you noob. Thats what you are, a Farking noob since all you do is suck on each others cock
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:47 am |
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yes, beg again for silk from ur parents i've partied wit u before, and i can tell spiral's changed u. ur little elite group won't be the best for much longer, once everyon's capped, u'll see where u stand. don't tell me what the fk i can say or can't say.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:55 am |
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wings151 wrote: GET YOUR ASS ONTO GREECE THEN, I WILL DROP YOU FASTER THAN A Farking TON OF BRICKS. YOU THINK YOUR ALL THAT, YOUR NOT, YOU EUROS ARE SHIT, WITHOUT YOUR Farking CLERIC BEHIND YOU, YOU GUYS ARE PAPER WEIGHT. YOU WANT TO TRY ME? GO AHEAD, YOU GUYS THINK YOUR TOUGH SHIT, BUT YOUR NOT, SO STFU ABOUT ALL YOUR HIGH AND MIGHTY.
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Since you were in the union before, i can tell you, **** you noob. Thats what you are, a Farking noob since all you do is suck on each others cock ROFL.. First of all we are on server HERA not GREECE.. Secondly I have been playing this game a total of 2 months. Call me a noob like i really get offended by that? This server and i was on mars same IGN. You can call me a noob but I'm not an idiot. I understand how things work. Thirdly Europeans are meant for PARTY PVP, PARTY GRINDING. So Europeans are party based and will rape any Chinese any day. You could be playing this game from day 1 it does not matter your still level 42 on server HERA and your say is worthless. TOloseGT wrote: yes, beg again for silk from ur parents i've partied wit u before, and i can tell spiral's changed u. ur little elite group won't be the best for much longer, once everyon's capped, u'll see where u stand. don't tell me what the fk i can say or can't say. You have disrespected me and my guild. This is my thread and you and Kagome's posts are SPAM to me. EDIT: So what if i can't get silk as easily as you or some other people do? I am not working currently because i am very busy with sports and school. This is why i have to ask or beg my parents for silk.. In my opinion my parents are great people and they have raised me very well. I am currently doing good in all my classes and in sports so they are alright with me playing this game. They just don't want me to spend so much time into this game.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:00 am |
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right im sorry, i forget your useless too. you think your superior, but your obviously not. Let me see now, ive saw you on the first day hera came out, and i can tell you, like gt said, you've been warped. And no one likes the new ****** you are, trying to act cool and tough. Each thing you say loses you respect. Grow a sack and figure out that your all talk. Just to let you know, you are one of the most useless people around because your a wizard? i think. and there are only 500 other wizards stronger than you. So on that note, enjoy sucking your union off
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no one respects you or your guild anymore. Because your acts have changed our views on you guys. If you guys kept the same attitude since the beginning of hera, we wouldn't be having this arguement, but since you guys are putting on this act, no one will ever respect your guild.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:06 am |
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wings151 wrote: right im sorry, i forget your useless too. you think your superior, but your obviously not. Let me see now, ive saw you on the first day hera came out, and i can tell you, like gt said, you've been warped. And no one likes the new ****** you are, trying to act cool and tough. Each thing you say loses you respect. Grow a sack and figure out that your all talk. Just to let you know, you are one of the most useless people around because your a wizard? i think. and there are only 500 other wizards stronger than you. So on that note, enjoy sucking your union off
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no one respects you or your guild anymore. Because your acts have changed our views on you guys. If you guys kept the same attitude since the beginning of hera, we wouldn't be having this arguement, but since you guys are putting on this act, no one will ever respect your guild. OH NO! NOT THAT!! No one will respect our guild or me!?!? OMG i am going to kill my self! Because you know real life isn't important or anything.. I mean if i am not respected in the game i should just Farking kill my self right now! Kagome lmfao your a funny guy.. Call me what ever you want but i seriously could care less i was just clearing up to all you fa66ots that you have no clue what your talking about. oh also who the **** are you lmfao i have never talked to you in game how the **** do you know me
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:10 am |
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no we know what we're talking about. You just think we're clueless. We see through your stupidity and your ignorance. Your just a low life loser. Just do everyone a favor, and kill yourself now.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:14 am |
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z0d the only reason i'm pissed is not at Spiral, but specifcally at you. I had no intentions of kill any Spiral members, as Zeeky might've saw when i ran with him for about 30 seconds. But when you killed me everything suddenly changed. You started bragging on how u killed "28 people before it started," which to be honest i don't understand. I came back and killed you and helped kill the Spiritus union members with our union that came to gate 3. The only one i would prevent myself were my friends in Spiral; Zeeky, Kyliss, etc, but other members killed them.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:15 am |
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wings151 wrote: no we know what we're talking about. You just think we're clueless. We see through your stupidity and your ignorance. Your just a low life loser. Just do everyone a favor, and kill yourself now. OH DAM! you got me.. you got me bad man that hurt me from the heart! You called me stupid and ignorant. I have never talked to this guy or played with him and he knows me so well.. I kind of feel famous now.. HE ALSO KNOWS ME SO WELL THAT HE CAN CALL ME A LOW LIFE LOSER! WOW.. i mean how did u find out all this info?
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:18 am |
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Pawnage wrote: z0d the only reason i'm pissed is not at Spiral, but specifcally at you. I had no intentions of kill any Spiral members, as Zeeky might've saw when i ran with her for about 30 seconds. But when you killed me everything suddenly changed. You started bragging on how u killed "28 people before it started," which to be honest i don't understand. I came back and killed you and helped kill the Spiritus union members with our union that came to gate 3. The only one i would prevent myself were my friends in Spiral; Zeeky, Kyliss, etc, but other members killed them. I made it clear to everyone that i am going to FW to have fun and i will attack all who i see.. i had a lot of fun don't take it so personal.. Also i wasn't bragging i was just excited but alright i guess.. You killed me after i killed you i didn't complain lol it was fun.. I was fighting a bunch of epic people towards the end too and there was no problem with them.. you gotta also understand.. that was my FIRST FW and first pvp in a while.. it might of sounded like i was bragging but i was very excited it was the funnest thing ever.. EDIT: ALSO this is my highest character ever.. i mean my first character if you look him up was 33 wizard and i soloed him all the way to 33 but then i heard new server coming out so i decided to wait
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:28 am |
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Spartan wrote: Pawnage wrote: z0d the only reason i'm pissed is not at Spiral, but specifcally at you. I had no intentions of kill any Spiral members, as Zeeky might've saw when i ran with her for about 30 seconds. But when you killed me everything suddenly changed. You started bragging on how u killed "28 people before it started," which to be honest i don't understand. I came back and killed you and helped kill the Spiritus union members with our union that came to gate 3. The only one i would prevent myself were my friends in Spiral; Zeeky, Kyliss, etc, but other members killed them. I made it clear to everyone that i am going to FW to have fun and i will attack all who i see.. i had a lot of fun don't take it so personal.. Also i wasn't bragging i was just excited but alright i guess.. You killed me after i killed you i didn't complain lol it was fun.. I was fighting a bunch of epic people towards the end too and there was no problem with them.. you gotta also understand.. that was my FIRST FW and first pvp in a while.. it might of sounded like i was bragging but i was very excited it was the funnest thing ever.. EDIT: ALSO this is my highest character ever.. i mean my first character if you look him up was 33 wizard and i soloed him all the way to 33 but then i heard new server coming out so i decided to wait so dont take this offensively, but because you used to be 33, and now your 64+, that gives you the right to talk shit to everyone lower than you? If you agree to this, you should stop playing sro, because your nothing. I like the fact that you soloed a wizard to 33, shows you got balls and skills. But since all that your doing right now is pting, for everything, you got no skill then.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:41 am |
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wings151 wrote: Spartan wrote: Pawnage wrote: z0d the only reason i'm pissed is not at Spiral, but specifcally at you. I had no intentions of kill any Spiral members, as Zeeky might've saw when i ran with her for about 30 seconds. But when you killed me everything suddenly changed. You started bragging on how u killed "28 people before it started," which to be honest i don't understand. I came back and killed you and helped kill the Spiritus union members with our union that came to gate 3. The only one i would prevent myself were my friends in Spiral; Zeeky, Kyliss, etc, but other members killed them. I made it clear to everyone that i am going to FW to have fun and i will attack all who i see.. i had a lot of fun don't take it so personal.. Also i wasn't bragging i was just excited but alright i guess.. You killed me after i killed you i didn't complain lol it was fun.. I was fighting a bunch of epic people towards the end too and there was no problem with them.. you gotta also understand.. that was my FIRST FW and first pvp in a while.. it might of sounded like i was bragging but i was very excited it was the funnest thing ever.. EDIT: ALSO this is my highest character ever.. i mean my first character if you look him up was 33 wizard and i soloed him all the way to 33 but then i heard new server coming out so i decided to wait so dont take this offensively, but because you used to be 33, and now your 64+, that gives you the right to talk shit to everyone lower than you? If you agree to this, you should stop playing sro, because your nothing. I like the fact that you soloed a wizard to 33, shows you got balls and skills. But since all that your doing right now is pting, for everything, you got no skill then. OK I'm done talking i feel that this is a waste of time.. IDC about anything that is going on but once you insult me and my guild i am going to say something back in defense.. I have said what i came here to say and now i am gone 
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:59 am |
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oh but please come back fkin noob, i'm not done having fun yet
oops, i just insulted u, wanna turn on ur caps lock nao?
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:13 am |
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TOloseGT wrote: oh but please come back fkin noob, i'm not done having fun yet
oops, i just insulted u, wanna turn on ur caps lock nao? Lol, Spartan brings down the whole guild image. Server drama aside, im not on your server so I don't know wtf is going on, but if this guy represents Spiral, its got some serious issues to fix. 
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:54 am |
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ThisIsAvalon wrote: TOloseGT wrote: oh but please come back fkin noob, i'm not done having fun yet
oops, i just insulted u, wanna turn on ur caps lock nao? Lol, Spartan brings down the whole guild image. Server drama aside, im not on your server so I don't know wtf is going on, but if this guy represents Spiral, its got some serious issues to fix.  Honestly, except epic union, the whole hera idea seems pretty much epic fail  Venus ftw!
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:18 am |
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You guys are talking about Hera like you even play on it.. you have a nice legit community at Venus from what i have heard and you probably had lots of problems too.. but on Hera it is not like that and basically the way things are going now on Hera, i agree with you that its an epic failed attempt to turn it into a legit server so far..
I don't want to spend the time of explaining what i have seen every Farking day on Hera.. yes you don't know me so i am probably putting a bad image for spiral but i am just sick of this stupid shit.. yes i would like to turn the server into a legit server but sooooo many problems are involved in trying to do that, that i feel it is not worth it anymore..
ill stick with grinding and having fun.. was a mistake to post here anyway.. i should of known the response i would get..
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:11 am |
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z0d, buddy.. piss off, seriously. You should just shut the hell up now before you make all the good Spiral members look bad. What are you 10? you go crazy when someone taunts you, you're like "OMFG YOU MATHERFACKER BITTCH I HATE YOU I HATE YOU HAHAHA I HIGH LVL YOU WHAT!? 40!? 40 OH!? HAHAHAHA YOU NO TALK YOU NO RIGHT TO TALK YOU KNOW NUTTIN PARTY-WIES!!!" come on dude take a grip. You know, I wanted to join Spiral because of the people around my lvl to party with but if that means having to put up with your retarded, childish attitude in union and game chat, I rather not. So once again, calm the hell down and stop insulting people because they're lower than you. You might be lv 75 or whatever, hurray good for you but you might bump into someone that actually knows more than you about the game.
By the way, my in-game name is Osiris, saving your "anonymous source" some time searching. And again, in behalf of the whole Srf and Epic union, shut the hell up already because you're creating drama, the kind of drama Spiral doesn't like.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:17 am |
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there you go z0d, figuring out who you are slowly. But its still not enough, you gotta find the person you were prior to Spiral. I agree with you that Hera is a complete failure because of all the stuff that happened between the guilds. However, you can't say that Spiral didn't have anything to do with it. Im not trying to spark a fight, im just saying, that there might be that SLIGHT chance you guys may have caused some problem. I think thats fair to say. Every guild in the union caused some problem. Yes, i know what you saw on Hera, which is a reason i left Hera, because of the stuff that goes on there. Now don't get angry at me, but the reason we're all bashing on your guild, is cause you guys were once in a legit union. Now in a half legit/half bot union. Now we're questioning if you guys are still legit, or if you guys got sick of trying to lvl and went to botting. Even tho i don't play on Hera anymore, I know some of you in Spiral, and those guys i know, have the exact same feelings i have towards bots, so i dont worry about whether you guys bot or not. What some of us are upset about, like me, is the way you are talking right now. Granted you are say like 64+, but that doesn't mean you get to talk to people condescendingly. If you want to go about things like that, your not only going to make yourself look stupid, but your union. You have to treat everyone with mutual respect, which is something that your not doing. Even though im 43 on Hera, you don't go around saying, that because I'm 43 i know nothing about the game. There is that small chance that I have a better insight into the problem within the union, which to my knowledge I do, because I interact with the union. I'm not here to start a flaming war, just saying z0d, that you've changed alot since the beginning of Hera, and the path your heading is the wrong one. You're just making a bigger ass of yourself. What you need to do, is find that person you were prior to Hera and live that life. And people will accept you for who you are. Not some fake personality you made just to try and fit in with the members of Spiral.
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:02 am |
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ok guys take a deeeeeep breath and lets stop this arguing. its not helping anyone. and it just looks immature...what has happened can't be changed. the only thing we can do now is to think about what to do next. Hi zod..cya tomorrow Hi Kagome..long time no see..how r u now? how's genesis. Hi atmos ^_^ thnx for the fw help lul Hi pawn. i  u too
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:04 am |
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kyliss won't put out tonight =[
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:41 am |
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lol? ye cuz i'm no whore. ^_^
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:06 am |
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Ok, dispiting everything that was said or done, or what the **** happened.
z0d is a great guy. if there more people like him in this world, world would be quite more fair. so, dont even try to come with the "Oh see, you're figuring out who you are" because that's just bullshit.
What z0d posted is how many ppl feel but cant be arsed to express it. God, im starting to hate this game alredy too
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:45 pm |
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i lolled, didnt i said there is more drama in a legit union then in any other-kind-of-union ? hihi
cure for the sro disease: GO OUTSIDE, get some fresh air and try to sleep some lol
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Post subject: Re: AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:35 pm |
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All I can gather is you aren't mature enough to control yourself. I hate to break it to you but the whole sticks and stones thing is what I live by... Insults aren't really going to help you TBH...
But, I seem to remember you wanting to quit when you couldn't get any groups at the beginning. You didn't but still, you act as if you ahve been loyal the whole time when you were also doubting the server in the beginning. The most honest reason I can give for quitting is because it really was/is a failure. I remember the day before I quit, we went into CTF came out and then IceCrash had to ask Exo to kick someone so I could get back into the party. If in the beginning we can't even keep together then I never expected us to get far.
Still, you can make your points about,"We are having fun" or "You don't know everything behind it", but neither of those really matter to someone thinking rationally. Why should you have to justify your fun? We already know the general story behind it already... Who cares if we don't know what they are saying exactly? What I gather for why you guys left the union is because the union wasn't the way you wanted it to be. You wanted everyone to bow down to you, you generally don't go as far as disrespect when it is just normal drama, and thus left for a union who respected your power more.
And please to bring up we didn't have the same goals as Vengeance/Epic... Having IceCrash in your guild pretty much makes that impossible. I remember he didn't want to party with Urikko, or something like that, because he was in Spiritus. Stupid point to bring up because it can be shattered by anyone who was in vent before the server opened or heard him actually say that...
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