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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:06 pm 
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All the way from Barpolles in Europe and eventually to Chasers in Roc Mountain, every mob I've partied against have physical attacks. The higher my physical defense, the more mobs I can tank, and the more XP the party gets.

I'm mainly focusing on leveling for the moment, so I don't PvP that much. When the time comes, I might consider getting a robe set.


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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:16 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:25 pm 
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guy, still nobody answered me about this..
does heavy armor increase the damage you deal because of the reinforce??

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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:40 pm 
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because their sub class is unfarmed and they don't like the look of light armor

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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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I plan on getting all three sets...
heavy for walking around looking completely badass.
light for tanking with cleric.
and robe for pvp against Chinese. etc

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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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guy, still nobody answered me about this..
does heavy armor increase the damage you deal because of the reinforce??


The reinforce stats on your armors only go towards your phy and mag defense. Being a pure str, and wearing HA, will definitely give you more phy defense than say, a pur int wearing the same exact set.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:55 pm 
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All the way from Barpolles in Europe and eventually to Chasers in Roc Mountain, every mob I've partied against have physical attacks. The higher my physical defense, the more mobs I can tank, and the more XP the party gets.

I'm mainly focusing on leveling for the moment, so I don't PvP that much. When the time comes, I might consider getting a robe set.



That's true, but once you hit Roc Mnt, all the mobs do some sort of Magical attack. You come with sucky HA to roc pts, you're gonna get hit harder than those in LA and Robes.

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instead of gay LA i made a robe and ha set.
one for each build :)
but i wear robe in group pvp since wizards do the dmg.

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instead of gay LA i made a robe and ha set.
one for each build :)
but i wear robe in group pvp since wizards do the dmg.

c'mon ppl.. LA doesnt look so bad :P
just dont wear those helmets that make u look like a 9 year old and u'll be fine :D
actually the female one looks pretty cool , and the male ones (9D ONLY) sorta makes u look powerfull

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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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Light Armor looks like ass either way you think about it. I dunno how you could stand it, but I can't. 9D male doesn't look that bad, but it's pretty bad.

Heavy Armor = Orgasmic.
Light Armor = Puke.
Robe = Less Orgasmic.

And those saying robe > heavy armor, sure robe will benefit more in this cap(Heavy armor is around 1500/1500 if no passives) and robe is like (1300/1800 i think? Correct me on this if i'm off so bad lol).

Since magical damage did increase a shit ton this cap.. yeah. Robe would be a smart choice, but since we all like to look cool over defense.. coolness wins! Besides heavy armor isn't bad unless you're fighting a pure int in mana shield. Then you just gotta play around with him and once again.. euro isn't meant single play. If you got a party you wouldn't really need to worry. 1vs1 is a different story.

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tbh it all looks shit :banghead: except 9d robe..

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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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I am a warrior and i DO NOT wear heavy armor. I wear light armor.

Hvy armor sucks u get 1 nuked.

With light i can survice 3 (cuz my set is good)

Hvy armor sucks in general. Warriors have high def already they dont need the extra phy, they are slow as hell and even slower with hvy, and they need some mag def.

Light armor solves all the problems and works great with cleric sub cuz u get those bonus def while ur buffed and cleric.

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TBH


Heavy Armor and Armor are just useless


most nearly everyone wears Garment/Protector and Robe/Light Armor

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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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so to summarise:

1-heavy armor is good all the way till u reach ROC mountain, then its better to switch into light armor for grinding

2-in terms of looks (according to most opinions) : HA > Robes > LA

3-HA does NOT affect the damage u deal

4-Robes are relatively the best final choice at the cap, unless u are going to get the cleric passives.

5-it is handy to have both HA and Robes, or just LA if u cant afford 2 sets.

6-HA is better mainly for tanking large parties, since most (not all) of the damage is going to be physical.

7-robes are usefull in 1v1 pvp, especially against S/S nukers who are considered the main challenge for a warrior/cleric.

8-two handers are slow and lack MP, so robes are supposed to fix this in addition to its healing bonus.

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They armor for many reasons...
looks/melee pvp/melee monsters etc

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They use HA cuz HA a fckin nice lookin, and LA is ugly as hell, specially da 9d ones.

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i use robe on my war noob and i pawn
its like pawn-age

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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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I don't understand why a Warrior would want to wear Heavy Armor though. The Warrior tree has tons of physical defense passives and the pure STR stat distribution means you already have high physical defense. As a Warrior, you should really pay attention to magical defense, not physical. I would understand a Warrior/Cleric in LA because of Cleric passives, but in Heavy Armor? Seems counter-productive to me, specially with all those magical-based mobs in Roc Mountain. It would be like a Glaiver or a Blader wearing an Armor set. :?

And personally, I think Heavy Armor is visually horrible. Makes you look like a giant robot lobster, which would be cool to have if it gave you passives when you wore it.


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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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for me, with 1H i have 1800 phys def and like 1750 mag def with HA.
I have 1680 and 2217 with robe.

having specialized gear as a euro is smart. Chinese can go with the overall good set cuz it works out well, but having 2 sets allows me to defeat pot delay.

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I dont think this trend is true..
If you take a look at the Warriors on Poseidon, nearly all of them are Light Armor.
The best ones anyway :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Why do ALL warriors wear Heavy Armor ?????!!!
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I dont think this trend is true..
If you take a look at the Warriors on Poseidon, nearly all of them are Light Armor.
The best ones anyway :roll:

*Cough* Future *Cough*

that would be nice if ur gonna farm the passives.. (which take a HELL ton of sp to farm). but i suppose robes would be overall better, covering ur speed and mana issues and also giving u the bonus healing passive.
well, in robes u can atually act as a cleric if u wanna.. but thats impossible to do with any other gear beingfull str

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Infect wrote:
I dont think this trend is true..
If you take a look at the Warriors on Poseidon, nearly all of them are Light Armor.
The best ones anyway :roll:

*Cough* Future *Cough*


lol did you steal that quote
"In peace, sons bury their fathers.
In war, fathers bury their sons."
from Rome total war xD

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YoMama wrote:
Infect wrote:
I dont think this trend is true..
If you take a look at the Warriors on Poseidon, nearly all of them are Light Armor.
The best ones anyway :roll:

*Cough* Future *Cough*


lol did you steal that quote
"In peace, sons bury their fathers.
In war, fathers bury their sons."
from Rome total war xD


That game was sick. :D

Anyways, the quote is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodotus

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Argonaut wrote:
YoMama wrote:
Infect wrote:
I dont think this trend is true..
If you take a look at the Warriors on Poseidon, nearly all of them are Light Armor.
The best ones anyway :roll:

*Cough* Future *Cough*


lol did you steal that quote
"In peace, sons bury their fathers.
In war, fathers bury their sons."
from Rome total war xD


That game was sick. :D

Anyways, the quote is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodotus

ya it was.. anyway cite your quotes or im calling the plagiarism police.

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ya it was.. anyway cite your quotes or im calling the plagiarism police.



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4-Robes are relatively the best final choice at the cap, unless u are going to get the cleric passives.
Dont forget you only get cleric passives when the rod is equiped.

8-two handers are slow and lack MP, so robes are supposed to fix this in addition to its healing bonus.
Dont forget you only get cleric passives when the rod is equiped. But robe does give you the 20% less mp usage so it would help alittle bit with mp pottage. Robes also doesnt make you attack faster, but instead your movement speed when you run away is faster then LA or HA.

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lol did you steal that quote
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from Rome total war xD


Although i did play Rome TW.. Which may i point out now, is a kick ass game! The quote is actually originally from a Greek Historian that i studied named Herodotus. It is inspiring so its there.. Since when do we have to create our own philosophical statements?

Hmm, i suppose if we had to, mine would be;
Thou shallt not whine about everything i do ISYS_BITCH :banghead:

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lol did you steal that quote
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from Rome total war xD


Although i did play Rome TW.. Which may i point out now, is a kick ass game! The quote is actually originally from a Greek Historian that i studied named Herodotus. It is inspiring so its there.. Since when do we have to create our own philosophical statements?

Hmm, i suppose if we had to, mine would be;
Thou shallt not whine about everything i do ISYS_BITCH :banghead:

nice im included in someones quote ^^
and also your friends 2h w/ sun +5 sucks doom killed him haha you suck and hes gear sucks. hahahaha noob :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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4-Robes are relatively the best final choice at the cap, unless u are going to get the cleric passives.
Dont forget you only get cleric passives when the rod is equiped.

8-two handers are slow and lack MP, so robes are supposed to fix this in addition to its healing bonus.
Dont forget you only get cleric passives when the rod is equiped. But robe does give you the 20% less mp usage so it would help alittle bit with mp pottage. Robes also doesnt make you attack faster, but instead your movement speed when you run away is faster then LA or HA.

1- yea i know u only get the passives when u're holding a cleric rod.. but actually thats the ONLY time when u will be really needing them. normally u would have bless and skins for 90 seconds, then 30 skinless seconds which u need to survive, and thats when u switch to cleric rod and make use of the passives.

2-i know the robes dont give u attack speed !! i am talking about the "movement" speed issues. u dont have any speed buffs at all, so any extra speed is welcome. and the speed isnt only for running away, its for running AFTER ppl when u are getting them pwned 8)

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