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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:52 am 
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@ Tallnik: I know a great spawn for Ishades/Hashdes. It's in a triangular formation and they spawn continuously. Try -992/-230 or -970/-108. I dont remember which one was the better one, but one of those spots was MY dedicated grinding spot from 52-56.

@zphantom: Those numbers are off mostly because there just isn't an archer to kill every single second in the den. I think i would go crazy if that happened. You don't add in repair times either. 700 sp in an hour is just too crazy. 600 at my rate is pretty crazy too.

@bandinopla: Well, if you don't get what i've been trying to say in this whole thead, I can't help you anymore. I don't use ticket and I get 500-600 sp in an hour. Workers near the ferries don't spawn fast enough and you have to run to them, thus reducing the amount of mobs you can kill in a given amount of time. Buy a sos bow, sell your sos glavie and invest some sp and mastery points into pacheon. Even if you 2 hit the, I'm certain you can gain more than 100 sp an hour, probably around atleast 100 sp an hour if not more. If you are in doubt, yo into the den and watch others farming or come onto athens and come look at others and myself farming for a bit. You will be amazed, that's for sure.

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The spot that I farm in is actually inside the bandit den stronghold. Inside that building thing. You can't miss it when you go in through the gate. At lv 17 i get about 130 sxp when in a full party of 4. I kill 1 in a normal attack w/ imbue.


Holy shit, how come i never found this spot. They spawn so fast, its insane! NOW i see how you guys manage to get so much SP in a short amount of time. I love you guys :P

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Farming at 52:
SOS BOW 52+3 vs level 51/52 Ishades (very similar to Flowers, tad faster spawn, find a good triangle). From my experience, an INT BOW 56+3 kills an Isahde in about 5 hits. An INT SOS BOW 52+3 should be about the same and will gain 27k-33k sp per level from 52 to 56.

5 hits ; 5 seconds * 18000 mobs = 90,000 seconds = 25 hours
TOTAL = 25 hours for 9k SP


Im lvl52 STR BOW, using 52+5 SOS bow, i 3-hit them :)

Btw i don't think those calculations are accurate, since i can't find a good spot for fast spawning ishades/hashades (spent a week trying exping all over the place +_+) where they spawn faster than i can kill, resulting in me having to run around :( i moved to penons/sonars


If you were on venice i could show you a spot at ishades... three hashades spawn in a triangle around you, faster then i killed. and im a nuker whom sometimes 1hitted, for the rest 2 hitted them with nuke+lionshout.

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if u discount the walking to an enemy, guying pots... going to city and come back... eat... lol. in reality a normal player will get 100sp in 1 hour of NORMAL hunting. mabe in 45 min, peneding on the walking ... but that just e, i'm pure STR wiht lv9 skills

No matter where you farm or grind, you have to do that anyways so I neglected that part...

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Im lvl52 STR BOW, using 52+5 SOS bow, i 3-hit them

Btw i don't think those calculations are accurate, since i can't find a good spot for fast spawning ishades/hashades (spent a week trying exping all over the place +_+) where they spawn faster than i can kill, resulting in me having to run around i moved to penons/sonars

EDITED: Sorry, I have made a correction, I was using a normal INT bow 52+3 (70+mag)! It took me 5 shots and a triangle was 95% constant spawn. 5% of the time the spawn was empty. So your SOS INT (?) bow 52+5 would surely require less shots to kill an ishade.

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@zphantom: Those numbers are off mostly because there just isn't an archer to kill every single second in the den. I think i would go crazy if that happened. You don't add in repair times either. 700 sp in an hour is just too crazy. 600 at my rate is pretty crazy too. @zphantom: Those numbers are off mostly because there just isn't an archer to kill every single second in the den. I think i would go crazy if that happened. You don't add in repair times either. 700 sp in an hour is just too crazy. 600 at my rate is pretty crazy too.

Ok, I'll change it to 600 sp :)


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jeez wt are u guys talking bout deleviling/ ressing 100 times.. when ur going16 -18 and bak?...

i just farm until i run out of pots/use up arrows/ durability runs out...

then i just walk into a mob and die.. and haazza!! like magic im bak at Jangan.. with bout 3-4%(i think) less exp and i just repair/buy stuff and go bak to farming.. ez as that eh?..

so if ur one of those people who hate deleveling thru ressing.. just do what was stated above :P

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What if I told you I could stay in the den from lv 16 @ 0% until 50% of lv 17 and not have to go back and repair, repot or get more arrows?

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JianMin wrote:
What if I told you I could stay in the den from lv 16 @ 0% until 50% of lv 17 and not have to go back and repair, repot or get more arrows?


I'd say "nothing special"

I farm with 3 different bows and spear. I delevel to 13 and farm to 17 at bandit den without returning once.

But then, I do have a char who holds extra arrows and mana potions who I use to pass on pots and take gear to town to repair.

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alfaq wrote:
jeez wt are u guys talking bout deleviling/ ressing 100 times.. when ur going16 -18 and bak?...

i just farm until i run out of pots/use up arrows/ durability runs out...

then i just walk into a mob and die.. and haazza!! like magic im bak at Jangan.. with bout 3-4%(i think) less exp and i just repair/buy stuff and go bak to farming.. ez as that eh?..

so if ur one of those people who hate deleveling thru ressing.. just do what was stated above :P

Yakshamesh


Well i think you only lose just over 2% and with gold ticket in 4/4 party i can pull a lvl+ in 2 runs @ the Den so that idea won't work for me...also you take a chance when you die you may drop an item that you wanted to keep...I found that out the hard way...

There is unfortunatly no way around dlvl...One idea if you're solo though is to pay 5k travel to the next town (naked BTW) and continue to walk out of town...hmmm though now i'm thinking a complete lvl 1 garment suit and breeze pot would speed this up a great deal....


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satman83 wrote:
well.

dont bother de-leveing. its just a waste to time. what you should do is
now that your at lv 16 is to keep going until you reach lv20. Then making sure that you have at least a 9 level mastery to level gap. Start to
sp farm.

At lv20 then go and kill around the ferry (west or east, jangan side).
If you do this, then you should reach 130k very fast. Also dont bother
with a so called "farming suits" huge waste of time and money.

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Dude you won't get 130k this way, it is also slower, the point of farming is staying at mobs that spawn fast, therefore going with nine gap from 20 would be a waste of time and money because your gonna have to switch weapons also. You should farm till about 21, then delevel therefore keeping your stat points. With SOM+5 you should easily one hit archers.


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The problem with the bandit den is its always packed with people. You'll be joining the KS club in no time. :D

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Well i've got about 26k so far staying @ lvl 16 and just dlvl..+5 sos bow w/ an all str set up and i can 2 hit kill with imbue and dlvl isn't really that big a pain...Now watching elements form thats painful....


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Just stay at bandit archers. I have 45k SP in 15 days+ with GT. 80% 1 hit kills. Get ur friends to help u delevel. Lucky for me i got plenty of guildmates to help me delevel. Thanks guys.

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I will say with the bots now (Marco_Polo) becoming more common which coupled with a full house do make the Den a difficult place now...Makes me very tempeted to stop @ 30k and SP later somewhere else...


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i started a new pacheon/ice character for shits& giggles

im thinking start farming the seconds i get into the game, of course doing the quests as i go, but not leveling any skills. ecept ice to get river force lvl 1? that sounds about right?


pure int, and btw, not everyone can afford a som bow, let alone find one. lol. :banghead:


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i started a new pacheon/ice character for shits& giggles

im thinking start farming the seconds i get into the game, of course doing the quests as i go, but not leveling any skills. ecept ice to get river force lvl 1? that sounds about right?


pure int, and btw, not everyone can afford a som bow, let alone find one. lol. :banghead:


and i have a monkey, which gives me more gold as i grind.

but i go into town and spend all the money on str pots :banghead:


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