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 Post subject: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:44 pm 
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How does one go about doing so using a bow assuming they attack first.


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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
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How does one go about doing so using a bow assuming they attack first.


Warrior cleric will be hard, and so will the lock. I'm going to have to really think hard about bow strategies against it. What bow build are you?

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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:21 pm 
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warlocks and clerics, you can about the same way, hit fast and hard, and hope for no blocks. I assume you are wizzard from what you said

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The cleric can 1 hit you with over heal, so remember that evne if you have bless on its gonna 1 hit you. But its a slow casting spell. And they don't have much hp. Stay invisible untill you are ready to strike, don't attack with bless on. If the cleric has no warrior buffs then its not so hard, just fire bolt followed by ice bolt if they blocked, by the time the realise they are under attack the first time, and cast over heal cause you are an int, you can get your 2nd nuke in, you could use charged wind to do knock back if you really wanted to, but i'm more aggressive, and go for my goal as fast as possible. The less time you spend on one opponent the faster you can get on to your next, or get back to what you need to be doing.

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Warlocks are slightly easier to kill then a cleric if you can catch them with their pants down. But remember stun and sleep are instant cast, so speed is imperative. invisible untill they are distracted, then nuke nuke nuke. Don't bother with things like knock back or fear, if they fail you are dead. Blow might work if you got lifecontroll on and a good staff. It would mean if their stun fails they are dead, cause they wont' have time to go for both stun and sleep. You have to kill them too fast for them to react back

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Easy enough to do. As always use the element of surprise to get the fight started favoring you. Stalk them, make sure never to hit with bless on, if you can catch them rebuffing their recovery division this is a perfect time because for a moment they dont' have the defense passives from their 1 handed tree, and cant just sprint assualt instantly. Stay as far back as possible at your nukes max range let your guy walk in as you click the skill to make sure you are at this range. Attack from bushes if you can making your self harder to get clicked on as fast, speed is again and always important to a wizzard, so nuke rapidly with the fire/ice bolt. If you are higher up and you got your 60 nukes remember frozen spear has a short cool down, but meteor still has a long cool down, and unless you can 1 hit htem i recomend allowing your self to get in multiple nukes in the same amount of time then a slightly more powerfull one.

They never meant for meteor to replace fire bolt, so dont' let it.
My proof is simple, ice bolt gets maxed out when frozen spear is availible, but fire bolt keeps going past when you get meteor. Instead let yourself benifeit from having both nukes


oh damn my bad, looking back up he said using bow, i thought he said using blow. Humm these are good wizzard tactics though lol

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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:58 pm 
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Close to Full STR Bow enough mp to hopefull surive combustion from a wizard and still keep up snow shield. Aiming for Pacheon 80 Light 80 Fire 80 Ice 60 sp farming will be a joy. Vs the slow cast spell I would plan on using rapid shot vs the warrior I would be running away but I'd have to deal with drug of wind + the lovley running attack that is super fast cast from Warriors.


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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
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warlocks and clerics, you can about the same way, hit fast and hard, and hope for no blocks. I assume you are wizzard from what you said

Cleric
The cleric can 1 hit you with over heal, so remember that evne if you have bless on its gonna 1 hit you. But its a slow casting spell. And they don't have much hp. Stay invisible untill you are ready to strike, don't attack with bless on. If the cleric has no warrior buffs then its not so hard, just fire bolt followed by ice bolt if they blocked, by the time the realise they are under attack the first time, and cast over heal cause you are an int, you can get your 2nd nuke in, you could use charged wind to do knock back if you really wanted to, but i'm more aggressive, and go for my goal as fast as possible. The less time you spend on one opponent the faster you can get on to your next, or get back to what you need to be doing.

Warlock
Warlocks are slightly easier to kill then a cleric if you can catch them with their pants down. But remember stun and sleep are instant cast, so speed is imperative. invisible untill they are distracted, then nuke nuke nuke. Don't bother with things like knock back or fear, if they fail you are dead. Blow might work if you got lifecontroll on and a good staff. It would mean if their stun fails they are dead, cause they wont' have time to go for both stun and sleep. You have to kill them too fast for them to react back

Paladins

Easy enough to do. As always use the element of surprise to get the fight started favoring you. Stalk them, make sure never to hit with bless on, if you can catch them rebuffing their recovery division this is a perfect time because for a moment they dont' have the defense passives from their 1 handed tree, and cant just sprint assualt instantly. Stay as far back as possible at your nukes max range let your guy walk in as you click the skill to make sure you are at this range. Attack from bushes if you can making your self harder to get clicked on as fast, speed is again and always important to a wizzard, so nuke rapidly with the fire/ice bolt. If you are higher up and you got your 60 nukes remember frozen spear has a short cool down, but meteor still has a long cool down, and unless you can 1 hit htem i recomend allowing your self to get in multiple nukes in the same amount of time then a slightly more powerfull one.

They never meant for meteor to replace fire bolt, so dont' let it.
My proof is simple, ice bolt gets maxed out when frozen spear is availible, but fire bolt keeps going past when you get meteor. Instead let yourself benifeit from having both nukes


oh damn my bad, looking back up he said using bow, i thought he said using blow. Humm these are good wizzard tactics though lol

good knowledge, can you give some tactics about pvp with paladins? (if they use mana skin i am done :x (my tactic is set a fire trap then meteor,charged squall,earthquake, if not dead then earthfence and go on :)

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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:53 pm 
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ciko1984 wrote:
foudre wrote:
warlocks and clerics, you can about the same way, hit fast and hard, and hope for no blocks. I assume you are wizzard from what you said

Cleric
The cleric can 1 hit you with over heal, so remember that evne if you have bless on its gonna 1 hit you. But its a slow casting spell. And they don't have much hp. Stay invisible untill you are ready to strike, don't attack with bless on. If the cleric has no warrior buffs then its not so hard, just fire bolt followed by ice bolt if they blocked, by the time the realise they are under attack the first time, and cast over heal cause you are an int, you can get your 2nd nuke in, you could use charged wind to do knock back if you really wanted to, but i'm more aggressive, and go for my goal as fast as possible. The less time you spend on one opponent the faster you can get on to your next, or get back to what you need to be doing.

Warlock
Warlocks are slightly easier to kill then a cleric if you can catch them with their pants down. But remember stun and sleep are instant cast, so speed is imperative. invisible untill they are distracted, then nuke nuke nuke. Don't bother with things like knock back or fear, if they fail you are dead. Blow might work if you got lifecontroll on and a good staff. It would mean if their stun fails they are dead, cause they wont' have time to go for both stun and sleep. You have to kill them too fast for them to react back

Paladins

Easy enough to do. As always use the element of surprise to get the fight started favoring you. Stalk them, make sure never to hit with bless on, if you can catch them rebuffing their recovery division this is a perfect time because for a moment they dont' have the defense passives from their 1 handed tree, and cant just sprint assualt instantly. Stay as far back as possible at your nukes max range let your guy walk in as you click the skill to make sure you are at this range. Attack from bushes if you can making your self harder to get clicked on as fast, speed is again and always important to a wizzard, so nuke rapidly with the fire/ice bolt. If you are higher up and you got your 60 nukes remember frozen spear has a short cool down, but meteor still has a long cool down, and unless you can 1 hit htem i recomend allowing your self to get in multiple nukes in the same amount of time then a slightly more powerfull one.

They never meant for meteor to replace fire bolt, so dont' let it.
My proof is simple, ice bolt gets maxed out when frozen spear is availible, but fire bolt keeps going past when you get meteor. Instead let yourself benifeit from having both nukes


oh damn my bad, looking back up he said using bow, i thought he said using blow. Humm these are good wizzard tactics though lol

good knowledge, can you give some tactics about pvp with paladins? (if they use mana skin i am done :x (my tactic is set a fire trap then meteor,charged squall,earthquake, if not dead then earthfence and go on :)


same rule with bless, and skins, attack when down, well mana skin who cares about the physical one

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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:17 am 
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Your best option against Paladins and Dark Knights would be to play cat and mouse.

I will go more in depth tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
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if u r equal lvl and he attks first then i think u dead. wizzez rule!!!!! :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
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what sub are you? and are you euro/chinese?

on warriors, just use bind from main tree and sub tree... they cant do anything against it and using both one after another, their bless/skins will run out and you'll have cooldown of first by time the second is done


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 Post subject: Re: Killing Warlock Wizards and Warrior Clerics
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You have range, they dont. If you dont hit them first, and they see you, I suggest you run or kb them before or during casting bless to cancel it. If they have bless on, just run.

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