Pills vs. Detect skills.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:08 pm

Anyone else think that detect skills are sort of a waste of sp? esp when the range is small and has such a long cooldown? Pills are more effective in my opinion.
What do you guys think? I didn't even take descry on my warrior.

Glavie's Girl · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1464 **Location:**

Skills just need sp, pills need gold. For some people the first is easier to get then the later.

JKMB · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 822 **Location:**

Pills allow you to be mobile and detect, with other stealth moves you have to know where they are standing 1st to ensure your de-stealth hits them, id rather take the pills..

Glavie's Girl · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1464 **Location:**

If I had a skill I would take the skill, but I have to use pills I have no choice.

And the skills are mobile as well I beleive those also are area buffs anyone in that circle of cast can use the buff, I dont think the pills do that. oO

Ragnorak · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1147 **Location:**

The most pathetic skill I know of is Fire Combustion and Vision of fire combustion....when you use it you have to facking guess where the invisible/stealth wiz/rogue is at lol (15 Meters)and when use the skill must hit the stealth/invisible rogue/wiz (like u know where the fck they are)...is not like u use it and run around for 120 sec..and u will be able to see anyone in steath/inv...thats what the pill does.

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

i've made use of both, only thing i don't like is descry only works for rogues, so having pills are a good idea, as long as you remember to buy enough, but the skills aren't entirely useless if you have a dagger rogue around you know they are probally getting closer to you if you know you are the target, surprised the hell out of some rogues in ctf that way on my warrior, its like ya i saw you restealth, i knew you was coming. The skills can get you by sort of if you don't got the pills but the pills are better because they see both rogues and wizards and the last a bit plus you can move around so you have some more guessing room then descry/detect/combustions

the_wicked · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:36 pm

Ragnorak wrote:

The most pathetic skill I know of is Fire Combustion and Vision of fire combustion....when you use it you have to facking guess where the invisible/stealth wiz/rogue is at lol (15 Meters)and when use the skill must hit the stealth/invisible rogue/wiz (like u know where the fck they are)...is not like u use it and run around for 120 sec..and u will be able to see anyone in steath/inv...thats what the pill does.

yea and the CD on the pill is like 20 seconds while CD on the skill is 2 mins =.=

the_wicked · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:39 pm

what im trying to get at is, since im lazy to farm the 10k or so that descry costs, should i bother even getting it?

JKMB · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 822 **Location:**

I dont know a pratical use for it, unless your near mobs/alot of other ppl who arnt in your pt, then they can detect stealth, I think its more of a party buff, but im not rly sure :/ id say just get pills if you have the gold.

Mishiru · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:00 pm

pills FTW!!!!

- more range
- you an move
- can be use in town
- cool down ( idk if is well writed) 20 segs and the skill is more than that

Hustlar · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 340 **Location:**

dude i prefer more sp over more gold, lol

the_wicked · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:12 pm

well i do have like 300mil and can afford 1mil / stack. That and i rarely have to use pills. maybe to get an invis flag holder in CTF which i never do.

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

well i do have like 300mil and can afford 1mil / stack. That and i rarely have to use pills. maybe to get an invis flag holder in CTF which i never do.

Im a warrior too, and I have it but never use it. The 2 minute cool down is pathetic, but it has helped me a few times.

givewater · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:26 am

Could someone clarify - i understand that to use Vision Fire Combustion etc u have to cast when the invisible/stealth is near you. Its no good casting it and waiting for someone to walk into it, cause it only works at the moment of casting.
If your trying to protect flag from invisible players, its useless.
Correct me if im wrong

Fauntleroy · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 746 **Location:** BotRoad

BOTH!

Infectious · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 212 **Location:**

How much does a pill cost?

Goseki · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 3452 **Location:**

givewater wrote:

Could someone clarify - i understand that to use Vision Fire Combustion etc u have to cast when the invisible/stealth is near you. Its no good casting it and waiting for someone to walk into it, cause it only works at the moment of casting.
If your trying to protect flag from invisible players, its useless.
Correct me if im wrong

No.... that's prob the ONLY time it's not useless. The moment you see the yellow bar going down near the flag kinda gives u the clue that they are RIGHT NEXT to the flag. So cast it than and kill them. Any other time combustion is useless, especially if they have the flag unless you happen to notice the flag drop, than just dash over and use the skill asap.

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:51 pm

How long does a pill work btw?
Thought only couple of seconds..

Infectious · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 212 **Location:**

120 seconds, I think. Or maybe that was how long the skills last..

sawney · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 241 **Location:**

uhh, the detect skill from the wizard tree is when u use it u can move to.. and not on one place only like that fire combustion? or im wrong?

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:54 pm

Can you move with the rogue stealth thing?

_Scarlett_ · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 1567 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

what im trying to get at is, since im lazy to farm the 10k or so that descry costs, should i bother even getting it?

No. I only have my descry @ Lv1...not even gonna bother leveling it higher. Buy the pills, they're better.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:57 am

im a rogue and i rarely allow myself to get caught in a descry...chances if if they've used it im already about to attack them anyway. Pills are far more annoying.

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:45 am

XemnasXD wrote:

im a rogue and i rarely allow myself to get caught in a descry...chances if if they've used it im already about to attack them anyway. Pills are far more annoying.

Now you're talking about rogues..

Descy has a range of 10.0meters.

Now, when you're a rogue, your xbow already has a range of 18.0meters
If you skilled the wide sight, you can have already an increase of more than 3meters(goes up when you upgrade that skill).
Distance shot has an extra range of 7.0meters & is your strongest skill as far as I know.
So this makes a range of 28meters, what makes descry totally useless..

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

change topic to detect skills vs pk2 edit?

jk.. yea i consider them a waste. not so reliable either, as a warrior i cant see wizards. pills FTW

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