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 Post subject: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:37 pm 
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Hello =D
I have 2 accounts, 1 which has a lvl 49 pure str bow and 1 which has a lvl 45 blade.
The blade is pretty bad, it IS pure str but I accidently lvled 1 point on int.. Oh well, not too bad.
Anyways, my bowman is bugged and almost everytime I login I get dc'd. Hell, everytime I log in I get dc'd!!
I dont wanna be bothered and try to fix the bug, because It will just waste my time.\
There's a guide here which expalains how to do it, but I'll have to die like 5 times by special mobs, ah I don't know.
BACK TO MY QUESTION! :p
I might as well go back to my blade.. Problem is I had this blade back at 70 cap and I was'nt such a good player back then, so I just lvl'd all masteries =D
I believe blades are the PERFECT tankers.
Full sos set, with high BR and a few pimped items can make you godly.
Here's what I need you to help me with (that is, if you can ):
I want a force blade.
It may sound bad, but ive been lurking these forums since 2007 and I've seen MANY weird builds..
Pure int bow, 70:70 Hybrid Bow with ice and force.. Hell, I've seen a pure int x-bow.
So, my question is, will force make me a better tanker? A better survivor?
It does mean I have to give up a whole mastery, but maybe It's for the best?
(Sorry my post is so long and It's actually my 3rd, but I really need some help!)
Fire has shield series, which can be very helpful.
Fire also has Magical defense increase.
As a tanker, I don't REALLY need phy. damage increase.. It may help, but I don't 100% need it.
Just like bards don't really need a good harp, because they're here to buff, not to nuke.
Now, ice.
Ice can increase Physical defense passivly, has Snow Shield, and has a physical def. increase buff.
What should I do? Should I create my own unique build? Will it really work? I really need some help here SRF!
So is it possible to make a force blade char which will be a very good tanker?
Also, I apologize for my bad english.


EDIT: I used an 80 cap calculator to figure out how much SP it will cost, etc.
I'll try and expalin it here.

Bicheon - lvl 80:
Smashing Series - Don't get any of them. Blade force series is alot faster and does more damage.
Flying stone smash isn't good for you, because you got vital-spot if you want to bleed\impotent etc.
Chain Sword Series - Max Illusion Chain, Billow Chain and heaven chain. No use in lightning chain.
Blade force Series - Max ALL. Good finish hit, fastest skill blades got.
Hidden Blade - max Blood Blade and Demon Blade. KD is important.
killing heaven blade series - down attack used with KD.
Snake sword series - max typhoon sword dance and snake sword dance. Snake Sword can hit from a 15M range, almost like a bow, and it hits 3 targets.
Shield Protection - MAX!!!!!!!!!
Cold lvl 80.
Frost guard series - max all.
Frost Nova Series - the last book can freeze 3 enemies at the same time.
Snow shield - 1 of the most important skills you'll max. Best survival PVP skill.
Cold Armor - MAX!!!
Fire - 30.
You MAY think this is bad, but it's not. Most people lvl cold to 30 and fire to 90, but you'll figure out why later =)
Fire force series - only good until lvl 30, because of max damage when lvling. Its optional, and you can (and should) delvl it.
Fire Shield Series - You'll have force cure series, hence it's not so worth the SP. You may lvl it.
Flame Body Series - this build is mostly about tanking, but not only! this skill will help you and you should max it.
Fire Shield Series - Max it, as you need the def.
Flame Devil Force Series - Max.

Ah, now the best part :)
Force! MAX!!
Self Heal Series - MAX! You are pure str and you need the HP. You're all about surviving, and this is an instant cast skill,
Force Cure Series - Very helpful too. Since we don't use fire shield series, we need these babies. Max all.
Cure Therapy and Heal Series - Both Optional. They're here to help your party members. I suggest not getting them.
Rebirth Art Series - max all. This skill tree will help you and your party very much. The last book restores around 30% of the lost exp.
natural therapy series - MAX!!!! This skill will help you SO much in the future. Must max.
Vital spot - one of the most underestimated, yet most powerful skills in sro. max all.
Force Increasing - Passive is always good :) Will also contribute to your snow shield.



I just want to say I'm just estimating this will be a good char, as it is my first guide.
Comments please.
Also, it says lvl 80 because the calculator wasnt up-to-date.. Consider it as 90.

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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:42 pm 
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Well, my aim is to be a 90% tanker.. But isnt my idea good?

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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:51 pm 
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do a 1h/cleric if u wanna be a tanker..
ur bicheon unerstandings a little off.. and erm dont u need an imbue?


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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:36 pm 
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Ice imbue.

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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:26 am 
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90 force, 90 fire, 90 bicheon

force= reduce enemy hit ratio, reduce enemy attack power. less damage to you = more tankage

fire= need mag def increase so u dont get owned by wizards, and other ints. ur full str so u dont need phy def from ice, just have ur vigor grains ready to use when its needed or use ur shield wall.

bicheon= cool. no explanation needed because u want a blader.

OR if you want you can try out this crazy build:
90 bicheon, 90 heuksal, 90 fire, 30 light
use drugs for speed

bicheon, use to get the status effect on them, bleed, division, etc...
once thats done whip out ur hard hitting glaive, and pwn them. if you feel ur getting owned, put ur blade back on, and knock em down, heal up, and then proceed as normal. its actually a little more than what i just said, but u get the idea, right?

edit: btw if you have any sense of regret of adding that 1 int point, you should start over. thats what id do. that regret will still be there when your 90. make sure u have the willpower to do it. dont get lazy.

this sums it up nicely too
Lempi wrote:
GimmeMo wrote:
Dual weapon builds suck at 70+ caps.

Feel free to elaborate on that.

So, you're saying, that a character that can give Bleed, Division and a couple of other statuses, then take aout a 85+7 glaive, which is the strongest of the chinese weapons, and unleash hell, sucks?

How exactly?

Thats like a force glaiver, but instead of force, you have extra attack skills, higher defence, an extra 1.1k phy defence for 15 seconds, shield and statuses.

If that sucks, im the Queen.


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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:53 am 
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ur right about the good set good weps can make u godly..
i have a 90% str hybrid..goin for 90 ice bich force 30 light
and im half SOS half SOM set / SOM weps .... it fckin owns period!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
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ieatpasta wrote:
90 force, 90 fire, 90 bicheon

force= reduce enemy hit ratio, reduce enemy attack power. less damage to you = more tankage

fire= need mag def increase so u dont get owned by wizards, and other ints. ur full str so u dont need phy def from ice, just have ur vigor grains ready to use when its needed or use ur shield wall.

bicheon= cool. no explanation needed because u want a blader.

OR if you want you can try out this crazy build:
90 bicheon, 90 heuksal, 90 fire, 30 light
use drugs for speed

bicheon, use to get the status effect on them, bleed, division, etc...
once thats done whip out ur hard hitting glaive, and pwn them. if you feel ur getting owned, put ur blade back on, and knock em down, heal up, and then proceed as normal. its actually a little more than what i just said, but u get the idea, right?

edit: btw if you have any sense of regret of adding that 1 int point, you should start over. thats what id do. that regret will still be there when your 90. make sure u have the willpower to do it. dont get lazy.

Nah, I don't really care about that 1 int point.
And think about it.. I want a character that is mainly a PvP tanker, and a bit of a fighter.
I'm not gonna waste my SP on shield wall, or buy vigor grains. I have no use in vigor, because I'm not a euro player.
At lvl 80, my Snow Shield takes 50% of the damage.. That's only at lvl 80.
At lvl 90, I will have 2k+ MP increase by Force's passive skill.
Ice is pretty much the best thing I can use as a tanker, hence the phy. def increase, snow shield, the ice imbue is pretty nice and frost nova.
I am going to use garm all the way, so I could use the phy def. increase..
Frost nova is great aswell.
Force blade-ice kicks ass.

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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:12 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:57 am 
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Ricooo wrote:
ieatpasta wrote:
90 force, 90 fire, 90 bicheon

force= reduce enemy hit ratio, reduce enemy attack power. less damage to you = more tankage

fire= need mag def increase so u dont get owned by wizards, and other ints. ur full str so u dont need phy def from ice, just have ur vigor grains ready to use when its needed or use ur shield wall.

bicheon= cool. no explanation needed because u want a blader.

OR if you want you can try out this crazy build:
90 bicheon, 90 heuksal, 90 fire, 30 light
use drugs for speed

bicheon, use to get the status effect on them, bleed, division, etc...
once thats done whip out ur hard hitting glaive, and pwn them. if you feel ur getting owned, put ur blade back on, and knock em down, heal up, and then proceed as normal. its actually a little more than what i just said, but u get the idea, right?

edit: btw if you have any sense of regret of adding that 1 int point, you should start over. thats what id do. that regret will still be there when your 90. make sure u have the willpower to do it. dont get lazy.

Nah, I don't really care about that 1 int point.
And think about it.. I want a character that is mainly a PvP tanker, and a bit of a fighter.
I'm not gonna waste my SP on shield wall, or buy vigor grains. I have no use in vigor, because I'm not a euro player.
At lvl 80, my Snow Shield takes 50% of the damage.. That's only at lvl 80.
At lvl 90, I will have 2k+ MP increase by Force's passive skill.
Ice is pretty much the best thing I can use as a tanker, hence the phy. def increase, snow shield, the ice imbue is pretty nice and frost nova.
I am going to use garm all the way, so I could use the phy def. increase..
Frost nova is great aswell.
Force blade-ice kicks ass.

try getting hit by a wizard, and then tell me vigors are useless. +2k mana from force is not gonna protect you from ur mana draining when ur getting hit for 15k+ by ints. ints are the ones that will have the highest success rate of killing you. ask any blader and they will tell you shield wall is good. taking ice instead of fire imbue means low damage, being a blader already has a low base damage. and not taking fire will lose the phy dmg increase as well. but if taking damage and not killing very much is what u like then by all means.


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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
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Yeah, you'll eventually have to start using vigors. :P

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 Post subject: Re: Important, please read! (With Guide)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:10 am 
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Force= More dmg by lowering the opponent defenses and for a support in team battles. A blader will tank regardless of what the build as long as it has a good shield u cant really die in one hit. Another thing imo the 2 things i run from or dont pvp unless i have too is Warlock and pure int spear with Snow on. Every build is dangerous if the person know what they doing. But hey most dont cuz they bot 24/7. My gear is only +5 and my protector is +3 all i do pretty good i pvp everyday. at the end of the day i think Force is the best thing a chinese can have. :love:

Oh yea Ice not gonna kick ass in 1vs 1 i can tell u that right now cuz you wont have no mp to fight back even with the passive. I got the 1st book maxed out and i have problems sometimes. In a FW that build would be excellent if u just be a tanker but u alone won't be a decent killer. Get fire dude get fire forget ice :twisted:

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