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 Post subject: my s/s hybrid.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:46 pm 
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first of all, HI:D
thank you for taking time to read my topic:D
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I was thinking of making an S/s hybrid int. i've seen/tried many builds. but now i want it perferct! this is my idea, please rate is / give suggestions:

7:1 [int:str]
90 bicheon [s/s needs bicheon, otherwise i could better take spear..]
90 light [IMO light nukers roxx, great hits, nice speed and magical dammage buffs:D]
60 ice [ psy defence buffs+ holy ice shield on lvl 60 40% damage absorption, i think it would be good enough for me.]
60 fire [great damage, an nice multi spell, +mag defence and weakning series reduce.]

i'll also wear protector, because my ice and fire would be the same, so [almost] same psy and mag defence, and my equips will get +str, and im pure int, so i think protector would be the best.

please rate it/ add sugestions, and help me find pro's and con's

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:48 pm 
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Could work, but its over all defense and dmg is kind of meh, it doesnt excell in any particular place, this is a pretty good build for a heavy hybrid spear how ever, if you want to make a hybrid int class. :)

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
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ok, good defence, but that also what i want. but you think i don't do great damage? i mean, if i use light imbue and light nuke, i would do nice damage.. or not? because lightning is (IMO) the best nuke.. so i don't see the damage problem...

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:17 am 
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Light hits less than Fire. Plain and simple. Every now and than it will shoot up, but not very consistant, especially with a light imbue. Of course with your build, that's what I'm doing if I lvl past 74. Not anytime soon though, gonna enjoy pwning my lvl until 9d prices drop some more.

I'm 74 pure int and here's my build, have yet to find a 74 without sox that can kill me consistantly.

73 bicheon, 73 light, 60 ice, 57 fire, and 30 force (force is simply cuz i like the purple ball :P)

Anyways, i'm pure int and yes, i'm wearing Garms, not armor or prot. How can i live? nope no prem + here, just plain maxed out garms and acc. Without buffs i have over 300 parry and 2k mag def. Add on snow shield and ironwall shield and you have a pain-in-the-ass tank. Wiz my lvl hit like 3k to me when i have snow on and i have almost 8k hp... so yeah.... I'd say with that build, it's going to get weaker and weaker as you lvl up though. The 57 hard fire buff won't do much anymore at later lvls, and it'll do better to just get ice instead and keep fire at 20-30 for fire shield. I find that I rarely use my fire nukes anymore. The dmg comparing a 72 and 70 light nuke ( horse and the other one ) goes from 10-15k as compared to the fire nukes, arrow and wide, i get like 5-8k. Almost half the dmg. So yeah... if you actually plan to go to cap, drop fire. if not, keep it for fun.

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:29 am 
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60cold-60fire - not such a farming freak ha ? :)

at this cap u will do ok, at 100 it will get complicated.

true - light nuke dmg is supposed to do the highest dmg but that comes true rarely espacially with light imbue as Goseki said before

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
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well. I know that if there will come 100cap, that i have to uhm... think about my build again, but for 90 cap, i think this build will really work...

#1 at higher lvl, i would have the 2 light nukes, they do reallynice dmg,
#2 at higher lvl, when my defence isn't that nice anymore because my def' buffs are lower lvl, i'll buy it all nice pimped [prot+acc+s/s]
3# with the 2 nukes from light, and the multi from fire and ice, i think i should pwn. Thats my opinion.
but do YOU think its worth a try?

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
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panterr wrote:
3# with the 2 nukes from light, and the multi from fire and ice, i think i should pwn. Thats my opinion.


sry i don't understand what are u reffering to

i think u'll do quite ok in pvp - but in pve you'll be shorthanded cause you have only 2 nukes with 5-6 secs cd.if u intend to go nuke+shout-mob it's ok but you don't have the 3rd nuke available for nuke-mob.

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
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i ment that i would also have the basice fire/ice nuckes+ the ice/fire nuke that hits multiple mobs.
and when i dont have enough nukes to "fill" the time, i will use bicheon skills, or like u sayd, lion shock or something..

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You'll do fine. The cooldown of the lightning nukes is well distributed, so you can actually use them back to back, and at level 90 you'll have a lvl 90 and a lvl 86 nuke. Combine that with lion shout and chains, and your damage will be fine. Lighting imbue with chains means you can deal status effects on multiple opponents, and the parry reduction will help in hitting those high numbers more often. No fire nukes required, but the big ice nuke may be fun on rare occasions if you can spare the SP.

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
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so dont't take fire nukes at all?

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panterr wrote:
so dont't take fire nukes at all?


Well, you can take them till lvl 60 in order to level faster, but after you start using lightning only nukes the lvl 60 nukes really are not very useful anymore. Not much sense in firing off a lvl 60 nuke when you're lvl 80+ IMHO.

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
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xD ok thx, my next question should be how to lvl with 1 nuke and lion shout xD but ok.. thx to all:)
if anyone has more suggestions please post it! :p

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with that build you might as well go 90 90 90 ice light bich 30 fire.

you won't be able to tank without good phys def. wear prot or garm with that build. you still get 8% phys damage from fire buff + passive and all the phys def and mag damage % you can get. Also build for 100 cap. srsly, 1:7 isn't that far from pure int, you will still do good damage, and still kill with bleed and division.

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hmm. what would the 30 fire do? for only lvl 30 buffs i dont need it, and at lvl 90, or even 100, it would be really worse damage.. so why 30 fire?

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panterr wrote:
hmm. what would the 30 fire do? for only lvl 30 buffs i dont need it, and at lvl 90, or even 100, it would be really worse damage.. so why 30 fire?


30 fire combined with a lot of alchemy can still make you immune against poison, ice, burn, zombie and shock.

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
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idk.. think just going 60 ice/fire.. looks good to me.
anyway, thank you all :D

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panterr wrote:
idk.. think just going 60 ice/fire.. looks good to me.
anyway, thank you all :D


good :) i have almsot the same build only i have 90 bich 90 ligh 68 cold 52 fire

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 Post subject: Re: my s/s hybrid.
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XesoS wrote:
good :) i have almsot the same build only i have 90 bich 90 ligh 68 cold 52 fire


and, does it work :D ?

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