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 Post subject: Hybrid S/S.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:05 am 
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I am currently working on a hybrid s/s nuker. Now, don't tell me to switch to spear, 'cause I won't. I was thinking either 90% mag balance with Bicheon/Light/Ice or 87% Bicheon/Light/Fire. The latter of the two would have excellent damage with the bicheon skills due to the added physical attack power from both the fire buffs and the added strength point. However, the first option has more defence and utilizes snow shield and will hit higher damage with nukes.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:55 am 
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I eat hybrids and ints, who don't use snowshield, for breakfast.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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85-87% with 90 bich/fire and 60 ice/light perhaps? In my opinion an iceless int is a daring choise. I dont say it won't work or anything, the damage will be great... But the defence might be lacking due to not having snow shield.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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ieatpasta wrote:
I eat hybrids and ints, who don't use snowshield, for breakfast.


i agree...

You need snowshield... it is true that more str you are less snowshield you need...
But still with 87% magical damage you need 40% snow shield...

Go with Shadows suggestion.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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may i ask why hyb s/s :?:
in my opinion hyb goes very well with spear, but s/s should be pure

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:39 am 
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Blindfire wrote:
I am currently working on a hybrid s/s nuker. Now, don't tell me to switch to spear, 'cause I won't.


Thats why:D


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:26 am 
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tbh im Hybrid S/S and i own Glaiver,bladers,bowers,wizzerds,rogues

lol but i lose vs 2H warriors xD they do crazy damage :P

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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umeras wrote:
may i ask why hyb s/s :?:
in my opinion hyb goes very well with spear, but s/s should be pure


I've done both, and S/S hybrids are a true beast. You're not as unprotected as with Spear, defense wise. Knockdown gives you a break from fighting, yes a spear can knockback but KD lets you still get in 1-3 more attacks while they're unable to do so where as KB simply moves them back and you can't do as much dmg easily.

Personally Qi, i do my Hybrids Light/Ice. I dual imbue which is more why i like my Ice maxed as well. I also do much heavier hybrid, but since you're looking at those Balances ill try and answer for you.

You can and should add in the STR on your gear to help make up for the extra bicheon damage you look for, but your true damage in bicheon will always be from your imbue. I would definately go Light/Ice.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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i eat INT's with or w/o SNOW SHIELD for breakfast

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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People that say they eat hybrid int lol come to my server try to eat me without my snow sheild.
And if your glaviers don't even try. or even bother i take glaviers down in 3 to 5 hits.
bowman stand a good chance blader just really anyoing >_>

Anyways Hybrid s/s is better then spear honestly no matter how hybrid you are with spear they are to easy to take down no blocks at all Lmao or extra def. Pure str glaviers are pretty easy but they have a good survival rate.

Anyways. Just go pure int if your gonna go bicheon/light/ice.
Since snow will keep you alive and stronger nuke damage being pure.

But if you want Bicheon/fire/light,
I suggest being very hybrid 1:4 or lower, for a better survival rate.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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ieatpasta wrote:
I eat hybrids and ints, who don't use snowshield, for breakfast.


Want a medal? Cost it's pretty easy to do..
It is one of their best skills.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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DeathBeforeDishonor wrote:
ieatpasta wrote:
I eat hybrids and ints, who don't use snowshield, for breakfast.


Want a medal? Cost it's pretty easy to do..
It is one of their best skills.


Sorry, your english isn't very good. So it's hard to understand you. But in any case, the point I was trying to make is:
Blindfire wrote:
I was thinking either 90% mag balance with Bicheon/Light/Ice or 87% Bicheon/Light/Fire

That Bicheon/Light/Fire is not a safe build for any kind of hybrid. Therefore, I recommend Bicheon/Light/Ice. If you still don't understand, feel free to leave a comment, and I'll go into as much detail as I can.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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I can't see why you think my english isn't very good.
I'm australian and have been here all my life, I think
it's easily understandable :P Maybe I phrased it wrong.

My point was Anyone can destroy ints and hybrid without
snow shield, it is thier biggest defensive skill..
Its like a warrior/cleric without skins and bless or
a blader without a shield.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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I would go 3:1 or 4:1 Hybrid because with more intelligence you will be too much full int like and won't see a difference

I think more HP + shield and kb skills should do well

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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PeroMed wrote:
You need snowshield... it is true that more str you are, the less snowshield you'll need...


+1

If you're really intent on going with fire, qi-nab, I'd suggest going w/ what erch said: 90 bich, fire, 60 cold, light

Otherwise, you can be fine w/ 90% int hyb w/ 90 bich, cold, light. Though know you're dependant on snow shield to live through most fights

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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alcoholic wrote:
lol come to my server try to eat me


I got to that point before I started laughing...sick mind, I think so. lol

Go bicheon, fire, ice, light. (talk ot me in-game if you wan' me to elaborate on it more)

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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_Scarlett_ wrote:
alcoholic wrote:
lol come to my server try to eat me


I got to that point before I started laughing...sick mind, I think so. lol

Go bicheon, fire, ice, light. (talk ot me in-game if you wan' me to elaborate on it more)

Is that really good >_>.
Like i know the survival and damage is amazing but like all you do is nuke it takes time to cast. ._.
I Really think you need weapon skills to kill.
You have to time your nukes and weapon skills to pwn. that's how i do it ;P

But fire/light/ice is probably good in war since you have team mates


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:44 am 
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DeathBeforeDishonor wrote:
I can't see why you think my english isn't very good.
I'm australian and have been here all my life, I think
it's easily understandable :P Maybe I phrased it wrong.

My point was Anyone can destroy ints and hybrid without
snow shield, it is thier biggest defensive skill..
Its like a warrior/cleric without skins and bless or
a blader without a shield.


Then I guess we both agree, because that's the point I was making when I said what I said.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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rofl @ all the guys saying: "i eat hybrid ints for breakfast" & other shitz...
U probably tank until their snow finishes and then u hope for crit to kill them.
How about killing them in snow or is it too hard for u?
I don't know what server u are on, but apparently it's full of noob hybrid ints!

When I was 86 gap0 I could kill 90ff glaviers...
90 bich/cold/light FTW

1:7 -> full int = bich/cold/light 90
1:5 -> 1:2 = fire/bich 90 & cold/light 60


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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The only problem is the 100 cap. If you have maxed bich light and cold you will lack immunity. Think carefully about your masteries.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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If I still wanted to take 90 Bicheon/Fire/Light, what would be a heavy enough hybrid to do so with?


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int pure ir int hyb without snow shield is breakfast

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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Blindfire wrote:
If I still wanted to take 90 Bicheon/Fire/Light, what would be a heavy enough hybrid to do so with?

Hard question.. Perhaps the 69%:70% would work?

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The only problem is the 100 cap. If you have maxed bich light and cold you will lack immunity. Think carefully about your masteries.

friendly cleric will fix that for jobbing/ wars and even give you a better magic defense buff

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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Shadow wrote:
Blindfire wrote:
If I still wanted to take 90 Bicheon/Fire/Light, what would be a heavy enough hybrid to do so with?

Hard question.. Perhaps the 69%:70% would work?

Yea thats perfect :) I think its possible for a 70 70 with no equips.
Lucky you now you can do lightning and fire nukes :O
You have a good survival rate to because you still can use 23% snow sheild.
and you got 15 sec of high phy def and a sheild to reduce and block damages :O


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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alcoholic wrote:
Shadow wrote:
Blindfire wrote:
If I still wanted to take 90 Bicheon/Fire/Light, what would be a heavy enough hybrid to do so with?

Hard question.. Perhaps the 69%:70% would work?

Yea thats perfect :) I think its possible for a 70 70 with no equips.
Lucky you now you can do lightning and fire nukes :O
You have a good survival rate to because you still can use 23% snow sheild.
and you got 15 sec of high phy def and a sheild to reduce and block damages :O


I think that's to much... that would be a spear build because you wont do enough damage
with a sword. You would be hard to kill and also you would kill hard.

IMO int hybrid s/s shouldn't go bellow 85% mag damage (naked).


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid S/S.
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My hybrid is a 72% and I can kill just find and i Don't have fire.
I can kill without statues not a problem.


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IMO, hybrid fire nuker is ok as long as u can reach 100%mag balance full suited,full blue with avatar.Maybe naked around 83%mag

OT: BTW i really want to make 1:2 or 70:70 or 1:1 sworder :D but dont have time to make it...this build will use mainly sword skill to pvp,should we call it Sworder?(As oppose to Blader^^)


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