with job you will most likely have another cleric so no prob there most people want a bard cuz there arent much you can run away without waiting for a cooldown or switching to daggers this way you can stay ranged with xbow xtreme the only thing rogue/bards arent amazing in are 1v1 pvp but even then they wont do bad if they know what they are doing
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So warrior wouldnt be as good as cleric and cleric is best for pvp and bard is best for jobs but what if there is a cleric and a bard in my party then would warrior be best if you have quick fingers?
Imo, stay bard, it has alot of the same atk skills that cleric has, all it doesnt have is heals, res and bless, it has status cures, bind, 110% speed increase at 100 cap and it makes it easier for you to get in and out and make the kill. Btw, have you considered warlock as a possible option for your sub?
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you can get 100% speed pots as well... cleric has a higher absolute damage skill too
but i like bard sub :S but i mainly group pvp... and subs in that case arent used since you cant heal well and only bless/recovery division/holy word stays when you switch but you have real cleric for those anyways in group
anyhow cleric sub is better for pvp since bard can be bought with speed pots, though with the new noise skill being applied for entire party, bard might change, would be helpful in trades if mobs didnt attack
So warrior wouldnt be as good as cleric and cleric is best for pvp and bard is best for jobs but what if there is a cleric and a bard in my party then would warrior be best if you have quick fingers?
yea warrior would probably be best if there are already others you can tank and decent dmg if there isnt a warrior already.
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Rogue/Warlock: You get useful DoTs (such as bleed and dull), Debuffs such as division and physical raze can help you do more damage while imponent can help you tank. You also get stun, sleep + trap, and absolutes. Pretty useful in PvE, and great in PvP unless you are against holy spell. Code: Select all
Rogue/Cleric: You get skills that help you tank (such as bless), make you immune to/or get rid of statuses (Holy spell, Innocent), quickly heal your hp (healing division, group recovery), heal you hp in short intervals (healing cycle, recovery division) and buff (str/int/deities). Pretty helpful in pve unless you grind on mobs that can 1 hit/2 hit you, have super spawns, and aggroe. This build rocks in PvP. Healing cycle helps healing your hp very fast, and bless helps when you need to tank lots of damage. Code: Select all
Rogue/Warrior: Great combination. You can KD, KB, Stun, etc. You get awesome buffs such as iron skin (increases phy def), vital skin(wrong name? o.O)(increases hp + def but lowers attack) and mana skin(increases magical def). A great combo in PvP would be KD > Daggers > DD > Wounds > Prick. You also can find parties alot. You get screens that raise a ally's def by a lot, and fence, protect, and Pain quota. Code: Select all
Rogue/Bard: Some useful skills for PvE in this mastery are noise (mobs don't aggro on you) and Moving march (more speed). There are skills that let you bind your foe or use absolute dmg. You also get parties as a bard, and get buffs for your party (dance of valor, guard tambour, hit march, etc). Not very useful in 1 vs 1 pvp. (Most of the vids are just lame DD+stealth+ prick + run to safe zone)
Hope i helped
I posted this in some other thread and didn't wanna retype >.<. IMO Rogue/Cleric is a great build for pvp (and pve too when it comes to killing giants and pt mobs)
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for group pvp and for solo pvp, cleric is better in all aspects. Buy a speed pot for 250k for big events. you'll always have bards and clerics in jobbing and FW, having an extra bless spell is handy. You can res and heal too. While using daggers, when you get in trouble, you can switch and your defense skyrockets.
cleric > bard for pvp no matter what.
rogue warrior is actually really good. skins, screens, KB, KD. Its a great solo PvP build, but if you're buffing in group PVP you can't go back to rogue. Screens are your only main thing. IMO cleric > warrior for a rogue too.
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