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									|  Post subject: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:07 am  |  |  
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					| what its better?i saw the fire,light,ice 90 its the biggest chinese damage dealer....and i saw it rulez in pvp...i dnt know...i m a little noobie..im waiting opinion of a pro.... nuker ice90,bich90,light90 its s/s nuker ice 90 light90 fire 90 its s/s too both protector...or garment...i think protector +5...        thx  _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:18 am  |  |  
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					| Go with the Bicheon/light/ice for knock down and a better % chance to block and attack 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:42 am  |  |  
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					| thx for ur opinion...i don't know why i prefer more the fire light ice...maybe for it's damage...i prefer the damage...it haves more buffs...mean more defence...more damage...immunity...thx for your sugest anyway...i wait more opinions _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:51 am  |  |  
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:59 am  |  |  
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					| i like more fire light ice but i want to know what its better...i like both VERY MUCH...but ice light bich need 840k sp and the fire light ice 750 k sp ... but not this is the problem..i want to know what is better.. _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:32 pm  |  |  
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					| Well for 1 v 1 pvp, undoubtedly you need a weapons skill maxed. For a support build or for group wars, fire/light/ice seems fun. _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:56 pm  |  |  
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:49 pm  |  |  
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					| good...i see that the light ice bich is the best on your opinion...but for pvp...i will pvp much...but i saw both on pvp...and they rulz...unfortunately i didnt see any pvp in nuker ice , light , bich vs fire,light,ice...im waiting more opinions _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:17 pm  |  |  
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					| bich/light/cold = single pvpfire/light/cold = group pvp, jobwars, guildwars
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:04 am  |  |  
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					| Go 90Biche/90Fire/90Ice/30Light its perfect ! 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:07 am  |  |  
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					| Sweeper wrote: Go 90Biche/90Fire/90Ice/30Light its perfect ! uninstall sro. dont do this. thats just noob pvp. bich light ice vs fire light ice = bich light ice wins. in group pvp tho fire light ice is better, i am fire light ice and im still good in pvp  _________________
 
   
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:14 am  |  |  
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					| penfold1992 wrote: i am fire light ice and im still good in pvp  do you ice/fire wall a lot? else, how can you ever nuke/shout?
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:39 am  |  |  
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					| I reckon the fire/light/ice will cost more SP. Something to consider, I guess. _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:56 am  |  |  
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					| rck shx pike wrote: I reckon the fire/light/ice will cost more SP. Something to consider, I guess. ...ur wrong....fire light ice need like 750k sp and the ice light bich need 850 k... Sweeper wrote: Go 90Biche/90Fire/90Ice/30Light its perfect ! ....wtf is this...it's shit...its damn slow...i know u want to help..i saw that youtube video...but its not a good build... alZen wrote: penfold1992 wrote: i am fire light ice and im still good in pvp  do you ice/fire wall a lot? else, how can you ever nuke/shout?....from ur mesage i understand that the ice light fire dnt have defence....listen..it haves MORE defence...it have the buff  of fire to protection..it have all buffs possibile for defence...except the shield from bicheon...  ok im 60% fire light ice...more opinions ?_________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:40 pm  |  |  
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					| come1 guys you will not lose ur fingers if u write me a opinion _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:50 pm  |  |  
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					| 90 ice/fire/light is awsom for pvei duno for pvp because ive never seen a pure int nuker 90ice/light/fire pvp before.......
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:14 am  |  |  
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					| LastProfet wrote: ....from ur mesage i understand that the ice light fire dnt have defence....listen..it haves MORE defence...it have the buff  of fire to protection..it have all buffs possibile for defence...except the shield from bicheon...  ok im 60% fire light ice...more opinions ?nope. that's not the point. if you're chinese all nukes fighting against any other builds that have a chance to stun, knockback, knockdown you, thereby canceling your nuke as you attempt to launch it, you have very few opportunities to let fly your nukes in a 1v1 situation.
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:28 am  |  |  
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					| from the ice tree i have 2 skills that freeze the enemy so i still have a chance _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:01 pm  |  |  
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					| alZen wrote: LastProfet wrote: ....from ur mesage i understand that the ice light fire dnt have defence....listen..it haves MORE defence...it have the buff  of fire to protection..it have all buffs possibile for defence...except the shield from bicheon...  ok im 60% fire light ice...more opinions ?nope. that's not the point. if you're chinese all nukes fighting against any other builds that have a chance to stun, knockback, knockdown you, thereby canceling your nuke as you attempt to launch it, you have very few opportunities to let fly your nukes in a 1v1 situation.it's not very good at 1v1 but better in group PvP as stated above. bich/cold/light is the 1v1 PvP build_________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:47 pm  |  |  
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					| aznfury91 wrote: it's not very good at 1v1 but better in group PvP as stated above.bich/cold/light is the 1v1 PvP build
 that's why it's not good for 1v1, but pretty good in group fights. weapon/cold/light will be better for 1v1 pvp._________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:10 pm  |  |  
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					| i see the ice light bich is better for pvp...ok i choose it then...thx all for opinion...TOPIC CAN BE CLOSED _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:26 am  |  |  
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					| I think S/S without bicheon skills its so boringgggggggggg...so i recommend you 90Bich/90Lighting/90Ice/30Fire 
 
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					| you seemed like you wanted to take fire ice light well i have one level 64 now and ... ive basically owned anyone except 2h and bladers 
 the unique thing about col light fire is that you can auto matically cancel kd because of cold wave
 
 this build also rapes bowers ,ive never lost too a bower yet and my friend had sos and i still won AND HE HIT CRIT basically with snow shield and mag and phys buffs its hard to die
 
 so this build is ftw and with bich all your doing is kd stab kd stab and once you dont kd them you would probably do a chain or light nuke ..this a good build but the damage is lower  and the hp is also low so ..yea with my buil i2 hit anyone cept bladers and 2hs
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:01 pm  |  |  
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					| willieb3 wrote: you seemed like you wanted to take fire ice light well i have one level 64 now and ... ive basically owned anyone except 2h and bladers 
 the unique thing about col light fire is that you can auto matically cancel kd because of cold wave
 
 this build also rapes bowers ,ive never lost too a bower yet and my friend had sos and i still won AND HE HIT CRIT basically with snow shield and mag and phys buffs its hard to die
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:33 am  |  |  
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					| bich,cold,light > cold,light,firei was pvping yesterday with 90 bich,cold,light full int and no1 killed me in snow..
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					| 90 fire/ice/bicheon, takes the cake at pvp at this cap.. it has better defense then 90 ice/light/bicheon and performs better over all, it sucks to grind though, to slow and no teleport, but for pvp its probably one of the better nuker builds at this cap, and depending on if we get fire shield upgraded at 100 cap, it will be one of the best nuker builds at 100 cap for sure.That is speaking from experience of playing both 90 ice/light and 90 ice/fire at cap..
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					| JKMB wrote: 90 fire/ice/bicheon, takes the cake at pvp at this cap.. it has better defense then 90 ice/light/bicheon and performs better over all, it sucks to grind though, to slow and no teleport, but for pvp its probably one of the better nuker builds at this cap, and depending on if we get fire shield upgraded at 100 cap, it will be one of the best nuker builds at 100 cap for sure.That is speaking from experience of playing both 90 ice/light and 90 ice/fire at cap..
  ... OMG guys...you saw the video on youtube with that ice fire bich guy...dude...don't talk about it...please try it ... and after then say me how it's to grind so slow..without speed and parry ratio and the bonus damage from piercing...fire have more buffs..nukes..but neah i like the light more...JKMD i checked ur char on rev..he has light and bicheon .._________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:31 am  |  |  
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					| LastProfet wrote: JKMB wrote: 90 fire/ice/bicheon, takes the cake at pvp at this cap.. it has better defense then 90 ice/light/bicheon and performs better over all, it sucks to grind though, to slow and no teleport, but for pvp its probably one of the better nuker builds at this cap, and depending on if we get fire shield upgraded at 100 cap, it will be one of the best nuker builds at 100 cap for sure.That is speaking from experience of playing both 90 ice/light and 90 ice/fire at cap..
  ... OMG guys...you saw the video on youtube with that ice fire bich guy...dude...don't talk about it...please try it ... and after then say me how it's to grind so slow..without speed and parry ratio and the bonus damage from piercing...fire have more buffs..nukes..but neah i like the light more...JKMD i checked ur char on rev..he has light and bicheon ..If I could reskill for fire, I would. Except I cant afford the inordinate amounts of silk to dlvl light, and I cant grind 24/7 to collect the hearts.    Trust me, fire > light, for refrence check this thread.viewtopic.php?f=4&t=103297 As you can see, its better to just have the added defense from fire, then to have parry ratio from lightning.  _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice  Posted:  Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:21 am  |  |  
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					| if u say...i like light cause it has a so nice 4d imbue xD and so nice nukes _________________
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					| I agree that light is sexy. :p But if your going to be mostly pvping then fire gives you a little more freedom since you have more then just 1 type of nuke, also its more balanced, I guess it all evens up in the end anyway.  _________________
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