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These tables will be edited if:

• I messed up somewhere. Post here if you see gaps & stupid little errors.

I will add a knockback table for 5 and 6 arrow combo tomorrow if someone posts the following, and is either 100% sure of the results, or can provide data that I myself can analzye:

• The probability of knockback for the 5 and 6 arrow combos
• Does the probability of knockback go up each time you level up the skill?
• If so, by how much?

NOTE: I'm assuming that the probability of a critical = (critical value/100).

With this table, one can look up the approximate amount of criticals you will get per combo.




6 Arrow combo!

Critical 18

Critical 17

Critical 16

Critical 15

Critical 14

Critical 13

Critical 12

Critical 11

Critical 10

Critical 9

Critical 8

Critical 7

Critical 6

Critical 5

Critical 4

Critical 3

Critical 2



5 Arrow combo!


Critical 18

Critical 17

Critical 16

Critical 15

Critical 14

Critical 13

Critical 12

Critical 11

Critical 10

Critical 9

Critical 8

Critical 7

Critical 6

Critical 5

Critical 4

Critical 3

Critical 2



4 Arrow combo!


Critical 18

Critical 17

Critical 16

Critical 15

Critical 14

Critical 13

Critical 12

Critical 11

Critical 10

Critical 9

Critical 8

Critical 7

Critical 6

Critical 5

Critical 4

Critical 3

Critical 2



3 Arrow combo!


Critical 18

Critical 17

Critical 16

Critical 15

Critical 14

Critical 13

Critical 12

Critical 11

Critical 10

Critical 9

Critical 8

Critical 7

Critical 6

Critical 5

Critical 4

Critical 3

Critical 2



2 Arrow combo!


Critical 18

Critical 17

Critical 16

Critical 15

Critical 14

Critical 13

Critical 12

Critical 11

Critical 10

Critical 9

Critical 8

Critical 7

Critical 6

Critical 5

Critical 4

Critical 3

Critical 2


If anyone refers to this work, in any way shape or form, refer to THIS forum and give credit where credit is due.

It may be because its 4am, or i've just misunderstood, but im assuming the 2-18 is the critical value on the bow?

In which case, 12 is the highest crit on a bow.
Unless you are counting SoSun too, which has max of 18, but surely due to the increased stats, it would be calculated different.

Edit; just ignore me... cant think atm.
Edit2; No, none of the combos have crit increase.

I thought about this.

Sosun 100% Critical, according to NivlaM, is 18.
Normal 0% Critical, according to NivlaM, is 2.

I wasn't going to redo a great portion of my work for something this annoying .


Thanks for your information about the combos!

Awesome work dude and its useful

But.. you have way too much time on your hands lol

woah

Back at the 80 cap compared the criticals made with a sun 64 glaive crit 12(40%) and a normal 72 glaive crit 12(80%). Both are crit 12 but i was getting more crits from the normal glaive.

nice.

If you really wanted to test if this was valid:

Take a video of you hitting 300 mangyangs with each weapon. DON'T take pauses in the video. All 300 mangyang hits must be in the same "scene".. if you get what I mean.

Upload it and I'll crunch the numbers.


++ Can I get info on the knockback?

I cant get on atm because of traffic, but my brother's char is a bowman, and im fairly sure the 5 arrow combo has an 80% knockback chance, on each arrow. Not sure abou 6 arrow.

For 5 arrow, the distribution of KB is like this: 20/80/30/20/0 or smt like that, but im sure the highest is 80%
No matter what is written in the skill description ie 30% KB, in reality it's 80% KB

@Immortalkiller: how do you calculate the values?

this might get sticky and land in the bow guide section if you add the prob of the othe attacks
(devil arrow, mindbow)

Upon request I'll explain what that all means.









Isn't that kind of obvious though >.>?

Like if you have a crit 12 bow, and you use a skill increasing crit by 12, you now have a 24% chance of a critical >.>?

wait till I finish all my exams, I'll partially unlock the secret of Critical. Yeah, it's not just a % chance

Well, from my experience I can say that critical % is not always correct

For example I had 2x bows first bow was C8 and second bow C11 .... I was always getting better percent to critical with the C8 bow over the C11 .. C11 is nice on paper but I'm sure there some things hidden ... Also my friend has 2x glaives one with c9 and the other c12 ... and the c9 glaive always critical more

As I said, take a video of 300 hits, with no interruptions, with each glaive. And I'll see if you're right.


I hate people saying XXX without proof... and what I request isn't all that tough to obtain!

I'm saying from my experience in PvP and so on.

I can't test now as I already sold all my items and I don't play anymore

Killjoy.

Anyone up for the test for me?

I might be able to get a video if my brother lets me use his pc.
Mine laughs at the thought of running Fraps

Thanks.

If it's possible, could you get two bows with a crit gap of like... 4+?
This would eliminate the % chance of error by a lot.




Edit: Are you sure about those knockback values Nuclear?

relevant to my interests.


ot: gj immortal

And yet nuclear hasn't posted it yet >.>


& Thanks... I'm just waiting for someone to give me definitive data.

It's better to put all the data in an Excel file than put them in the spoilers

It is in an excel file, but excel isn't as popular as it is useful.

I think you just want the excel file

well, if I were you, I'd post a SS of the Excel. Posting 50 spoilers consumes too much time

Well you still haven't posted that secret so rawr!

I'm going to go so far as to bump this up merely to request for the secret of criticals--

"it's not just a % chance."

I'm sitting here like this:

It used to be the notion that the crit value on the weapons determines how high the crit damage is. But that is hard to ascertain since damages fall anywhere between a set range(Hi~Low). From my experience I found that when I use a bow with a higher crit value I tend to crit more often. And thats from observing all attacks. Not just arrow combos.

Why did you try to find out how many crits are there in those combos? Seems kinda pointless (Even tho your work is impressive). A crit on a single arrow (or 2) out of the many in a combo doesn't do much. I think players would want to know how often they can expect crits so they can time the expected occurrence of a crit with one of their big attacks.. Like strong bow vision etc.

You misinterpreted what I wrote.

I know that as the crit value on a weapon increases, the probability of a critical occurring increases. (Kinda common sense at this point in the game...)

It's fun to know how many criticals per arrow combo should be expected. This does just that. Every other skill has, from the data I've got,

Critical value on weapon + Critical added by skill) percent of critical.

I'm just hoping that a specific someone can enlighten me, as "they" said it's not just a % chance.

See...this is my point. Why is it important to know when the crit damage (when it happens) is on a single arrow in the 3/4/5 arrow combo? Each arrow damage from a combo pales in comparison to the other big attacks...which is where all us bow types would rather see a crit. But never mind...its ok...You did after all say "it's fun to know". Whether I think its fun or not isn't important.. keep at your quest.

I agree and an even easier test to prove that criticals are more frequent depending on external factors. Try an imbue test at same levels all three Imbues. You will be very suprised at the results. Devil Bow works best. I did 100 of Each, as first hit on Snake dudes.... Btw I also Beieve Light decresese PR before it hits take that into concideration Silo