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Jadekiss
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Post subject: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:58 pm |
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Well hey guys i wonder what sub fit best for Rogue in
1: PvE 2: PvP 3: For Group Hunting etc.
Some ppl say Cleric and some warlock What would be the best ? I Saw some Vids already of a rogue/warlock.. they do a pretty good job
Sry i missed a lot of european development xD
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:23 pm |
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Jadekiss wrote: 1: PvE Cleric. 2: PvP Warlock and cleric. 3: For Group Hunting etc. Cleric. Jadekiss wrote: What would be the best ? In general, if you care mostly about 1vs1 pvp, then warlock. If you prefer group hunting/pvp and PvE, cleric.
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Jadekiss
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:50 pm |
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Dam ! lol
But a Rogue/Cleric would win against a Rogue/Warlock ?
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:54 pm |
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Jadekiss wrote: Dam ! lol
But a Rogue/Cleric would win against a Rogue/Warlock ? It'd depend mainly on who has better playing skills and equipment.
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Jadekiss
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:57 pm |
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Well i thought of Holy Word/Spell or sth like that wouldnt it be a "Safe Ass Skill" against warlocks ?
Cleric seems to have so many usefull skills and Buffs While warlock have only debuffs But they have a skill where they suck HP from the enemy right ? If yes.. is that skill good.. well does it suck much HP ?
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:06 pm |
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Jadekiss wrote: Well i thought of Holy Word/Spell or sth like that wouldnt it be a "Safe Ass Skill" against warlocks ? Nope, a good warlock can (easily) fight against holy word/spell.
Cleric seems to have so many usefull skills and Buffs While warlock have only debuffs But they have a skill where they suck HP from the enemy right ? Warlocks suck hp, clerics heal. If yes.. is that skill good.. well does it suck much HP ? No, not much hp. It's somewhat little. Clerics healing are WAY more effective.
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Jadekiss
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:08 pm |
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So playing a Rogue/Cleric in Group pvp and Group hunting is better and safer right ? Since the cleric skills safe you
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:37 pm |
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Jadekiss wrote: So playing a Rogue/Cleric in Group pvp and Group hunting is better and safer right ? Since the cleric skills safe you Generally, yes.
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Jadekiss
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:41 pm |
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Alright  My first euro will be a Rogue/cleric then xD Thx ..can be closed 
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hyma
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:19 am |
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why not bard? its just a question, im in the same dilema, idk which sub should i use with my 'currently farming' rogue. 1st thought was cleric, i've used a few chars with cleric sub and its pretty helpfull. warlock is a bit too much for meh, idk its just complicated  bard its awesomely fast and noise works perfect, and that's pretty much it. but why not? also bard is the cheapest mastery to delevel i guess  edit: forgot to mention, im not pvp 1v1 fan anyway, i do some and i have fun but not everytime, im more like helping others, plvling, uniques, and job.
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Ningyotsukai-san
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:52 am |
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hyma wrote: 1st thought was cleric, i've used a few chars with cleric sub and its pretty helpfull. warlock is a bit too much for meh, idk its just complicated  bard its awesomely fast and noise works perfect, and that's pretty much it. but why not? also bard is the cheapest mastery to delevel i guess  edit: forgot to mention, im not pvp 1v1 fan anyway, i do some and i have fun but not everytime, im more like helping others, plvling, uniques, and jobThink you gave your own answer there lol.. Bard sub's just about good for solo grinding, except against giants perhaps, unique hunting, or acting as the bard in a pt (note, you'll only be able to sit around and put up tambours and dances (w/ another bard), heal mp, or do not-as-powerful absolutes) Warlock sub's good for solo pvp, not as much helpful in group battles (you can stun or put bleed, panic, and death trap (moreso if you get disease on first) on peeps w/ holyspell on....other than that, you'll probably just be scorning people or taking out ints. Cleric sub's nice for solo grinding (not as much as bard for the speed, but can tank better than a rogue w/ a bard sub), or group pve, but people generally don't search for rogues to fill a spot in a 8/8 pt. Good in 1vs1 and group pvp ... can bless, give buffs, ress, and scorn, or take out ints.
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hyma
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:43 pm |
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thank you, Ningyotsukai-san. anyone with a Rogue/Bard high lvl experiences, pros and cons, tips, anythingggggggggg? 
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:02 pm |
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hyma the bard its only speed and protection against aggresive mobs.. cleric its better..dnt ask me why..look on this forum...
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:06 pm |
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lol, in my server bard sub is for the wizzys botting at the shades
well, pros: speed, noise, maybe mp and dances.. but-->optional
contras: No more tanking ability than without sub Cleric subbers can tank more, buff others, resssssssss
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:27 am |
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YOUR A ROGUE GOT THE CRIT AND THE HIGH DMG ALMSOT LIKE A WIZARD JUST ALOT MORE HEALTH I WOULD SAY ROGUE/BARD all the way u have to remember your defense isn't as good as a warrior. you might not have all the time to do the debuffs and stuff and your a rouge you should be a dmg dealer in partys not a healer. Also you will want to be far from enemy when fighting with x-bow so u want to be able to run fast. Friend of mine is a rogue/bard SHE IS BEAST
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:45 pm |
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well noise is more useful than recovery division i think for solo
recovery division can't heal more than you take if lots of mobs are attacking you (unless you fight lower mob) {ie: mob hits 500 and RD heals ~1500, meaning if more than 3 mobs hit you at once then RD isnt really healing anything because it just goes away, and mobs hit faster than RD heals normally... though if you heal cycle/bless you can fight them but it is troublesome too) so noises makes it so you fight 1 on 1 and in that case vigor/hp pots are enough
using xbow how often do you even get hit anyways? except on pt mob/champ/giant and then having bless/recovery is only useful if you dont get swarmed by too many mobs at once
since cleric/bard can bind, you can even fight giants without getting hit much, just bind it and shoot (dont use arrow imbue) and the giant unless it has range attacks wont even hit you, you can do same with discord wave/dog on bard
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Bobby
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Post subject: Re: Rogue question Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:31 am |
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silkyoad wrote: YOUR A ROGUE GOT THE CRIT AND THE HIGH DMG ALMSOT LIKE A WIZARD JUST ALOT MORE HEALTH I WOULD SAY ROGUE/BARD all the way u have to remember your defense isn't as good as a warrior. you might not have all the time to do the debuffs and stuff and your a rouge you should be a dmg dealer in partys not a healer. Also you will want to be far from enemy when fighting with x-bow so u want to be able to run fast. Friend of mine is a rogue/bard SHE IS BEAST Hm..i think u have time to debuff if ur full str with warlock rod and shield on. Having a cleric subclass dosen't mean ur a healer, cleric offers a range of buffs that'll help u in solo pve/pvp. Bard can be a pretty useful class for pve, and not a big sp costing one either but for pvp, or u'd get from it is the semi-useful bind and maybe the occasional tambour.
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