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									|  Post subject: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:00 pm  |  |  
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					| Hey all ^^  im here for help... my char has 500k sp and im trying to decide between a remake of my bower or a glavie (to be diff, everyone is bower now... xD). bowers are famous but glavie seems real fun.. and i enjoy ctf and pvp. I dont really know any advantages/disadvantages so can someone help me decide? haha And plus idk if i should keep farming for lv110 cap.. decisions decisions.. ahah  Thanks  
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:10 pm  |  |  
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					| Bow:-lots of kb
 -lots of crits
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 -some really high dmg attacks
 -extra hp
 -extra mag def from fan storm
 
 There's obviously more but that's all I could come up with in like 2 mins.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:15 pm  |  |  
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					| Both bow and glaive good for pvp nowadays.But bow seem better in pve including uniques. 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:19 pm  |  |  
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					| bow > glaive in pvp. they can't kill me.
 yet to pvp a glaiver with double throw though.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:39 pm  |  |  
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					| i have sos and +5 bows up til lv72 also but have a pimpin fb som +5 glavie xD Looks like bow would be better doesnt it? (pvp and unique hunting)  More help please  
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:01 am  |  |  
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					| Bow takes less sp if that helps... _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:21 am  |  |  
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					| Bow (if full str) levels slower at lower lvls than glavie (glavie has more aoe on lower lvls)At higher lvl, bow lvls faster
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:51 pm  |  |  
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					| I personally find bow incredibly boring. The skills aren't cool enough for my liking. I say go glavie. 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:20 pm  |  |  
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					| Bow: + Range
 + Good Attack Rating
 + Hawks (Attacking)
 + Criticals
 + Knock Back (And Knock Down)
 
 - Arrows
 - Less HP than Glavie
 
 Glavie:
 + More HP than Bow
 + Bonus Mag.Def
 + Stuns
 + Knock Back (Ghost Spears)
 
 - Only One Ranged Attack
 - Slower
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:21 pm  |  |  
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					| Glavie of course...Bow is bored, every skill looks same...  and every one is bower.
 But what kind of Build on the next caps?
 -Heuksal/Lightning/Fire
 -Heuksal/Cold/Fire
 -Heuksal/Force/Fire
 
 ...thats a hard decision
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:23 pm  |  |  
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					| I think i might just go glavie.  Only bad part is all the gold ive spent on bows :/ oh well i can always stall lol.  Glavie seems fun cus of the skills and such just gotta farm more    Thanks for the help guys.   
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:52 pm  |  |  
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					| About Build I would say: 100Heuksal/100Fire/80Lightning/20Cold _________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:52 pm  |  |  
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					| Tasdik wrote: I personally find bow incredibly boring. The skills aren't cool enough for my liking. I say go glavie. I thought that at first too, at the low levels.  Once you get to higher levels though it gets really fun, I might go on to say that it is my favorite build to solo after I hit the 60's.  I don't know what it was, I just started to feel like a beast...however, your right about glavie moves, they are so fun, the chains are soooooo smexy._________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:24 pm  |  |  
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					| You guys make it sound like glavie isnt boring to play.... 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:54 pm  |  |  
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					| dutchleader wrote: You guys make it sound like glavie isnt boring to play.... Maybe because it isn't boring to play?_________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:40 pm  |  |  
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					| I'm not really worried about what build is the "best" for the chinese pure str choices.. I just want a fun char for pvp, ctf , unique hunting and decent for lvling    100heuk/100fire/80light/20 ice for snow shield right? Thank you all. ^^
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:46 pm  |  |  
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					| ofc 20 cold for snow ^^good choice.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:56 pm  |  |  
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					| Quote: I'm not really worried about what build is the "best" for the chinese pure str choices.. I just want a fun char for pvp, ctf , unique hunting and decent for lvling   100heuk/100fire/80light/20 ice for snow shield right? Thank you all. ^^Pvp-Bow(Vs euros ranged KB). Ctf-Both Unique hunting -Bow for sure. Decent leveling-Bow. Bow wins mayority.Even if someone were to dispute decent leveling.Im euro xbow,any chinese is slow for me in leveling,but bow is passable.
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:01 pm  |  |  
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					| Haha im going with glavie because I have a lv 53 bower already, it just isn't farmed enough and would have to farm at lvl 64 :/ and farming as we all know is boring... but i dont find it as bad cus i'll be 8d lol. 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:20 am  |  |  
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					| ToxiCity wrote: I'm not really worried about what build is the "best" for the chinese pure str choices.. I just want a fun char for pvp, ctf , unique hunting and decent for lvling    100heuk/100fire/80light/20 ice for snow shield right? Thank you all. ^^Well I have both a glavie and a bower in the 70's and imho, I find glavie is more fun in ctf/pvp/etc...I find bower more fun PvE, I don't know why, maybe it's just me because most people I talk to are the other way around, but then again, most people I talk to haven't had both at a "high" level.  Isn't that sad, 70's isn't really considered that high level anymore?_________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:30 am  |  |  
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					| [/quote] Well I have both a glavie and a bower in the 70's and imho, I find glavie is more fun in ctf/pvp/etc...I find bower more fun PvE, I don't know why, maybe it's just me because most people I talk to are the other way around, but then again, most people I talk to haven't had both at a "high" level.  Isn't that sad, 70's isn't really considered that high level anymore?[/quote] To be honest ive never had a "High" Lvl. My highest lv char is 53   kinda embarrasing..  Don't worry I find lvl 70 high lvl  
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:32 am  |  |  
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					| Wow I fail at quoting... hahah 
 
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					| TheKnight wrote: dutchleader wrote: You guys make it sound like glavie isnt boring to play.... Maybe because it isn't boring to play?Depends on the person and in this case I doubt he will enjoy glavie over bow.  Fastest grinding= bow unique's= bow good in solo pvp = bow Anyway to the OP you should choose what style you like the most because gameplay keeps evolving. bow= attacking from a save range and using kb + phantom to stay away from your enemy. It will be hard when 2 enemy's attack you cause you can only kb 1.  Glaive= Hitting your enemy mindless with big hits while you can last longer versus multiple enemy's due to magic defense + high hp.
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:23 pm  |  |  
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					| Haha see why this decision is so hard..   And i dont wanna end up not likeing my char after farming all that sp... (never wanna do it again.. except at high lvl if i have to)  But most suggested bow because of the things i like to do.. Ill go with it cus i know i wont get dissapointed    thanks all.  then again ive gone to deciding on Bow to deciding on glavie -.-.. lol
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:12 pm  |  |  
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					| bow chance to win vs Euro chars
 Glavie is crap in my eyes srry for those who are glavie lol .
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:24 pm  |  |  
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					| Like ranged attacks - Bow,Want to level faster - Bow,
 Want to farm faster - Bow.
 
 Like unique skills - Glavie.
 
 Bow is fun more or less, but overall less defence.. However, with the addition of new skills. Its a valid option. I would suggest Bow, as im in love with them at this moment. However, i am a believer than.. even on a cap where bow is so highly overpowered.. Other chars can kill them. Glavie being one.
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Hard Decision :( Bow or Glavie ~  Posted:  Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:23 am  |  |  
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					| Altough Bow is better but I would see Gavie a lil bit more exotic class since it's skills are so cool... _________________
 
 
 
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					| again go with bow. im lvl 95 bow and other lvl 95+ glaivers couldnt kill me during FW. _________________
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