My pointing out their popularity wasn't my main point. It was to support the fact that it has been growing rather than falling as a Manga. Google Manga and the first thing that pops up is http://www.onemanga.com/ with the top 3 Viewed as Naruto/Bleach/OP in that Order.
I understood his analogy, but in turn it doesn't make sense in the fact that Britney Spears has great musical talent, but as a person she isn't very popular and constantly looked down on as well as shamed for her lifestyle. You can't really compare the popularity of a Japanese manga to that of a person unless it's as a whole and not a partial. There's a reason she's called a guilty pleasure.
Again you missed the point. It doesn't matter if Britney Spears has great musical talent. Look at the other two artists Xemn mentioned. They both have musical talent. The point is, you can not conclude any artistic credibility based on popularity. I could say that "the Beatles had exceptional musical talent because they were popular", and it still wouldn't be a sound and valid argument because of the the simple fact that musical talent =/= popularity. The right argument would be to list their lyrical style, originality, critical achievement, etc.
The same applies in a wide array of credits especially in the entertainment industry - music, films, anime, manga, etc. Recall that Xemn even mentioned the summer hit Transformers. It's popular but it doesn't deserve shit for its writing, production, direction...
And how else would you mean by "growing" other than becoming popular? You even used Google which ranks its search results on popularity. On top of that, you even specifically said that the "top viewed as Naruto/Bleach/OP". What else does "top viewed" mean other than popularity. Onemanga itself ranks its mangas based on popularity.
Enter ratings. Look at the top rated mangas on My Anime List and Anime News Network. They separate popularity from rating. No way in hell Naruto or Bleach can even make it on the top 50. The #1 highest rated on My Anime List is Berserk, which is, on the same site, the 17th most popular. Monster takes the #1 rank on Anime News Network as the highest rated but is the 14th most popular.
Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's good.
I never said popularity meant it was good. But it definitely tells you something. It being the most viewed manga in these recent months and on Wide known Manga sites.. I'm pretty sure that counts towards showing how good people truly think it is. Plus you can't compare the popularity of one thing to the popularity of something of a completely different category.
My Main Point that you guys missed was this.
Bleach is popular for a reason. You don't become popular for sucking. bleh
I never said popularity meant it was good. But it definitely tells you something. It being the most viewed manga in these recent months and on Wide known Manga sites.. I'm pretty sure that counts towards showing how good people truly think it is. Plus you can't compare the popularity of one thing to the popularity of something of a completely different category.
The category is arts entertainment. Where have you been all this time?
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My Main Point that you guys missed was this.
Bleach is popular for a reason. You don't become popular for sucking. bleh
You can be popular and still suck. (Welcome to mainstream media.) You can also be popular and be good. So, then what does popularity say about sucking and being good? Simple: Nothing.
I never said popularity meant it was good. But it definitely tells you something. It being the most viewed manga in these recent months and on Wide known Manga sites.. I'm pretty sure that counts towards showing how good people truly think it is. Plus you can't compare the popularity of one thing to the popularity of something of a completely different category.
The category is arts entertainment. Where have you been all this time?
Blackdragon6 wrote:
My Main Point that you guys missed was this.
Bleach is popular for a reason. You don't become popular for sucking. bleh
You can be popular and still suck. (Welcome to mainstream media.) You can also be popular and be good. So, then what does popularity say about sucking and being good? Simple: Nothing.
I'm sorry. I can't believe I was so naive to miss the resemblance. Anyone else here mistake Bleach for a musical entertainment? ...
Art itself is a very bland category and very expansive. Musical Art/Video Art/CG Art/Photography Art/Sketching or Drawing Art/Sculpting Art And I'm sure a ton of others. How is a PB & J similar to a Salad... It's Food.
This is all based on Opinion, and the greater majority thinks Bleach is a good manga /discussion
I'm sorry. I can't believe I was so naive to miss the resemblance. Anyone else here mistake Bleach for a musical entertainment? ...
Art itself is a very bland category and very expansive. Musical Art/Video Art/CG Art/Photography Art/Sketching or Drawing Art/Sculpting Art And I'm sure a ton of others. How is a PB & J similar to a Salad... It's Food.
The broad category was taken from your appeal on popularity, which is broad and as I just pointed out, meaningless. If you based Bleach's "goodness" on say, it's writing, originality, etc., then the bland and expansive category of arts entertainment would be easily reduced to creative writing.
Blackdragon6 wrote:
This is all based on Opinion, and the greater majority thinks Bleach is a good manga /discussion
Blackdragon just be quiet. Both Xemn's and Prophet's arguments are sound while you keep contradicting yourself.
But on a different note, you can't help but feel sorry for WW.
WW is a freak he deserves insta death lol.
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Blackdragon just be quiet. Both Xemn's and Prophet's arguments are sound while you keep contradicting yourself.
But on a different note, you can't help but feel sorry for WW.
WW is a freak he deserves insta death lol.
agreed...how can you feel sorry for a character that has 0 personality on purpose. If he wasn't going around sticking his hands through peoples chest i guess he'd be kind of like an obedient dog and i might have a d'aww moment...but he is sticking his hands through peoples chest, that much power with such low cognitive abilities...he should be put down asap and i can't say i care too much either way, the arancarr have been nothing if not fodder so far...
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Blackdragon just be quiet. Both Xemn's and Prophet's arguments are sound while you keep contradicting yourself.
But on a different note, you can't help but feel sorry for WW.
Really.. and where is your input? none? wow..
Show me a contradiction. I shall explain if you find such.. All that was in theirs was personal opinion. I attempted to explain that.. Let me dum it down.. They say Bleach Sucks.. I say no it don't. They say yes it does. I say no it don't.
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
.Banshee wrote:
Blackdragon just be quiet. Both Xemn's and Prophet's arguments are sound while you keep contradicting yourself.
But on a different note, you can't help but feel sorry for WW.
Really.. and where is your input? none? wow..
Show me a contradiction. I shall explain if you find such.. All that was in theirs was personal opinion. I attempted to explain that.. Let me dum it down.. They say Bleach Sucks.. I say no it don't. They say yes it does. I say no it don't.
^ What a twist.
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My Main Point that you guys missed was this.
Bleach is popular for a reason. You don't become popular for sucking. bleh
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I never said popularity meant it was good.
Don't even bother replying. I don't have time to be sitting here arguing a pointless debate.
Blackdragon just be quiet. Both Xemn's and Prophet's arguments are sound while you keep contradicting yourself.
But on a different note, you can't help but feel sorry for WW.
Really.. and where is your input? none? wow..
Show me a contradiction. I shall explain if you find such.. All that was in theirs was personal opinion. I attempted to explain that.. Let me dum it down.. They say Bleach Sucks.. I say no it don't. They say yes it does. I say no it don't.
^ What a twist.
Spoiler!
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My Main Point that you guys missed was this.
Bleach is popular for a reason. You don't become popular for sucking. bleh
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I never said popularity meant it was good.
Don't even bother replying. I don't have time to be sitting here arguing a pointless debate.
Lol.. That's not a contradiction.
They said it sucked. And that popularity meant nothing. Popularity doesn't mean it's good, but it's a supporting factor that proves as such. I understand why your impotent brain would think as such though so no hard feelings. Let me dum it down once more.
Popularity don't mean it's good, but it does indeed help send the message that it doesn't suck
Not a contradiction, but part of the same argument.
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Blackdragon just be quiet. Both Xemn's and Prophet's arguments are sound while you keep contradicting yourself.
But on a different note, you can't help but feel sorry for WW.
Really.. and where is your input? none? wow..
Show me a contradiction. I shall explain if you find such.. All that was in theirs was personal opinion. I attempted to explain that.. Let me dum it down.. They say Bleach Sucks.. I say no it don't. They say yes it does. I say no it don't.
^ What a twist.
Spoiler!
Quote:
My Main Point that you guys missed was this.
Bleach is popular for a reason. You don't become popular for sucking. bleh
Quote:
I never said popularity meant it was good.
Don't even bother replying. I don't have time to be sitting here arguing a pointless debate.
Off-Topic ; Never noticed how pretty Michelle Obama was until now
^that's why I love that picture it's funny and good looking at the same time. I don't understand why some people say she's ugly though.
Like a lot of females her "looks" vary from picture to picture due to lighting, amount of make up, and facial expression. Also, a lot of people don't like Obamamamama. For w/e reason. They've never met the guy so w/evs.
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Bleach ~
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ＷＷを倒したところからで WW has been defeated. 余裕の愛染さん あなたが出した火はどこにいったんでしょうか～？ Aizen: Where do you suppose the fire that you released went to? ＷＷの遺体をみる爺さんＷＷの遺体が爆発 Yama looks at WW's corpse and it explodes. 爆発を最小限に抑えるため自らの体でかばった爺さん In order to minimize the explosion Yama throws his body on top of it. 愛染 いあ～ありがとう爺さん私の世界を守ってくださって Aizen: Well, thank you Yama for protecting my world. 爺さんに止めをさそうと近寄る愛染さん Aizen approaches Yama to finish him off. 爺さん 小童が！ Yama: You brat! 瀕死の爺さんに足を捕まれ 第９６？のなんちゃら一刀なんちゃら～ The dying Yama grabs him by the foot and uses # 96, and a swipe of the sword. [I'm not sure what Nja is trying to say here.] で地面から刀の様な炎が吹きだし やけどしながらなんとか逃げた愛染さん Out of the ground spouts a flame-like blade. Aizen gets burned and tries to escape. 愛染 くっ… Aizen: Damn. と炎から脱出した所にイチゴの仮面姿が斬り込んで 来た所で 完です… As Aizen escapes from the fire vizard Ichigo barges in. The end. これ以外は記憶がないっす That's all I remember
補足です Supplement 爺さんが瞬時にかばったのは自分の技の威力を知っていた為 Yama threw himself on the explosion because he knew it was his own power. それが一気に爆発したら結界を壊し現実世界まで被害が及んでしまう為 But had it exploded the barrier would have been destroyed and the real world, too. それを皮肉って愛染が 私の世界を守ってくれてありがとう That's why Aizen was sarcastically thanking him for protecting his world. だったと思う。 That's what I think.
Naruto ~
Spoiler!
Naruto says Sasuke is his friend.
Sasuke claims no one understands him, Kakashi tries to persuade Naruto to let him do the dirty work, Sakura cries...
Same ol', same ol'
The last sentence is: "what kind of option is 'I'll kill Sasuke and die myself, as well' "
That's basiclally the option Naruto chose.
OP ~
Spoiler!
黒ひげ これからは俺の時代だ！！！！！！で終わりですｗ Blackbeard covers up Whitebeard's corpse with a darkness coating, and reappears with the Gura Gura fruit power stolen from him.
He declares war on World Government and the people of the world, and says from now on, this is MY era! And that's the end. Quote: 863 ：んじゃ ◆bvOTKk1mXg [↓] ：2010/03/09(火) 20:27:39 ID:SdIao3//0 名前間違ってるねｗｗｗ 黒ひげ お前らに最高のショーをみせてやるよ！
Blackbeard says: 'I'll show you the best show in the world!' and comes out with Whitebeard captured
After he makes the marines immobile with his darkness, (the one that makes their feet sink into the ground) he then uses the Gura Gura ability! Also, the marineford HQ is nearly destroyed.
Marines wonder how Blackbeard can use Whitebeard's Gura Gura ability. Akainu and Aokiji also notices the abnormality, and look towards Teach Teach: With the ultimate ability Gura Gura fruit in my possession, I'm invincible! Then as I said earlier, he declares war, and says From now, this is my Era!
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Srsly, that was the best answer Naruto could come up with. I WANT TO BE HOKAGE! Now to save a friend, I'll beat him up, than kill myself, BRILLIANT. -_-
As for One Piece, wonder about that D. I guess the D wasn't a family after all, but than what is it...
Bleach is meh. Ichigo finally moves and odds are the attack will be nulled. Bleach doesn't seem like one of those fights where a sudden hit and it's over. Odds are the fight will last until Ichigo unlocks the next level of his mask. Resurrecion? He's already got up the the lvl of the Espadas with the hole in his chest. I don't think he's gotten to the Ressurecion lvl of his mask yet though.
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