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 Post subject: STILL NOT SURE, BLADERS COME HERE/
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:35 pm 
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This is JarJar again,

still thinking of getting a blader but what skills to take.

If I go with force I can take fire/force/blade or ice/force/blade.

-fire/force/blade = has good attack damage but i think laggs defence.
-ice/force/blade = had good defense and without/with force its has good damage.

Also thinking about fire/ice/blade what are the pros and cons at this build, can it kill?

And what about fire/light/blade just thought about this one.

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 Post subject: Re: STILL NOT SURE, BLADERS COME HERE/
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:00 pm 
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Bladers never lack defence. And i see you know the basics of different builds so it's up to you to decide what you'd like the most.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:06 pm 
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But do you think that ice force bladers can kill? because i really want to go this typ of build but dunno if it can kill, and if i cant put force on the enemy then i cant kill with only ice imbue right?

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 Post subject: Re: STILL NOT SURE, BLADERS COME HERE/
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:18 pm 
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imo ice+force for a full str is a fail, fire is a must for a full str, you cant kill or survive without the mag defence and phy dmg increase buffs. So going ice+force for a full str IMO is not worth it. If you want the debuff's go bicheon/force/fire (110) or something like 110 bicheon/ 110 force / 90 fire / 30 cold. In both ways you will have to spend shitloads of money on speed pots, but those builds are tested so you wont screw up.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:49 pm 
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excatly, the only way to go is bich/fire/force or bich/fire/90 light/20 cold

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:58 pm 
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bich fire force
bich fire cold
bich fire heuskal

I like the last one the most :dope:


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I prefer Bich/Fire/Cold... can take some damage.

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Macsnow wrote:
I prefer Bich/Fire/Cold... can take some damage.

Lol, The Blader is one of the very best tankers here !!
Wht do you mean by tank SOME??
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karimgh wrote:
Macsnow wrote:
I prefer Bich/Fire/Cold... can take some damage.

Lol, The Blader is one of the very best tankers here !!
Wht do you mean by tank SOME??
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It's an understatement probably.

Well...

Bich/Fire/Ice - Pure tank build
Bich/Fire/Force - Highest dmg blader build
Bich/Fire/Light/Ice - Most sp friendly build and decent overall
Bich/Fire/Pach or Heuk - Shitload of sp but very fun to play

I'd say take your pick, with the debuffs from bich the blader is not only capable of taking great amounts of damages but it can also kill.

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I can tell you, that Fire Cold Bladers on my server are very weak .. even with sun.

Better go Force Blader

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karimgh wrote:
Macsnow wrote:
I prefer Bich/Fire/Cold... can take some damage.

Lol, The Blader is one of the very best tankers here !!
Wht do you mean by tank SOME??
:palm: :palm:


Don't be an idiot, it's just a way of saying it can really take a lot of damage. :nowant:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:59 pm 
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:P ....
Anyway, STR characters needs FIRE.. You cant drop it except if you really 100% know what you are doing.
110bich/110fire/110force (Ultimate debuffer!!)

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For PvE: 110bich/fire/light

For PvP: 110bich/fire/force


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well IMO blade/ice/force will have a LOT of defense...it can pwn in PVP...but it isnt 100% pvp material...if u get a nice +7 or better blade with high crit, you can PWN, but u will need to mostly rely on crits to kill your opponent

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colt45 wrote:
well IMO blade/ice/force will have a LOT of defense...it can pwn in PVP...but it isnt 100% pvp material...if u get a nice +7 or better blade with high crit, you can PWN, but u will need to mostly rely on crits to kill your opponent


Blader without Fire (any str for that matter) is weak, even with force.

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yeh well if u go force just go Weapon/Fire/Force (STR char)
im making a blader right now xD bich/fire/light all 110 with prot.... xD currently lvl 4 xD

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colt45 wrote:
yeh well if u go force just go Weapon/Fire/Force (STR char)
im making a blader right now xD bich/fire/light all 110 with prot.... xD currently lvl 4 xD


Light max is useless for str chars, you're better off taking 90Light/20Ice or 80/30 even if you want to spare sp.

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karimgh wrote:
:P ....
Anyway, STR characters needs FIRE.. You cant drop it except if you really 100% know what you are doing.
110bich/110fire/110force (Ultimate debuffer!!)


this is nice build also, not just debuffer but also it can tank way better since you can heal yourself and also u can remove bad status.

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reyboy7 wrote:
karimgh wrote:
:P ....
Anyway, STR characters needs FIRE.. You cant drop it except if you really 100% know what you are doing.
110bich/110fire/110force (Ultimate debuffer!!)


this is nice build also, not just debuffer but also it can tank way better since you can heal yourself and also u can remove bad status.

yeh removing bad statuses is very usefull

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only advice i can give you, blader isnt suppose to kill, it is a rusher unit that suppose to penetrate and give others the chance to strike while you take the damage, also if you rush with a blader go for the wizards, bladers are essential in breaking enemy lines.

if you plan on killing, just dont go with blader, simple as that. no matter what build you take, and how good is your gear, you arent suppose to be a killing machine. live with it.


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sn1kzZe wrote:
only advice i can give you, blader isnt suppose to kill, it is a rusher unit that suppose to penetrate and give others the chance to strike while you take the damage, also if you rush with a blader go for the wizards, bladers are essential in breaking enemy lines.

if you plan on killing, just dont go with blader, simple as that. no matter what build you take, and how good is your gear, you arent suppose to be a killing machine. live with it.

well i have to disagree in some parts...u are right, but bladers CAN kill and they can kill very very easily. just need some skillz :P

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dont get me wrong, i like this build alot and i think it has more to offer than it looks like. a single blader can distract 10+ players while they chase him and let others sneak up for the kill.

a blader alone is nothing to be afraid of, but combined with another 3 bladers and they are force to be reckoned, once they get you on the ground and all KD you at the same time, i call it rape from above.

but dont plan on being like a warrior/lock type of build, that you can somehow invent a new method of killing str chars 1v1. it doesnt exist.

(show me a blader that can kill a str char, and ill show you a noob str char that cant tank a blader.)


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:16 pm 
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You could always play around with ice and light to find the best balance, atm im 65 ice 45 light and it works for me. I use snow shield adept lv.1 when i have my celestial ground bicheon force. Plus with garms ,i rarely ever get drained with snow up :D

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