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killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

Hello guys, I'm quiet new to silkroad and made a S/S Nuker( is it better than Spear?), and I have read many guides about this class and some questions came up as I read them, so is it a good idea to do this? Bicheon/Fire/Lightning/40Cold for 30% Snow Shield? I really dont wanna just do Bicheon/Fire/Ice or Bicheon/Ice/Lightning beacuse I want the Fire nukes, Defenses/Snow Shield, and Speed/Lightning Nukes. And also, should I take Lion shout or the Soul Blade Force as a finishing move? Come help me out at Oasis

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S3by · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 519 **Location:**

killerjc wrote:

Hello guys, I'm quiet new to silkroad and I wanted to make a S/S Nuker( is it better than Spear)?

Yes

killerjc wrote:

and I have read many guides about this class and some questions came up in my mind as I read them, so is it a good idea to do this? Bicheon/Fire/Lightning/40Cold for 30% Snow Shield?

No , go bicheon/light(imbue)/cold

killerjc wrote:

I really dont wanna just do Bicheon/Fire/Ice or Bicheon/Ice/Lightning beacuse I want the Fire nukes, Defenses, and speeds. And also, should I take Lion shout or the Soul Blade Force?

I am not for 67/45/53 masteryes , max or nothink .
Fire nukes more dmg but from fire u woud use only imbue , 2 nukes and mag def but since u are pure int u allready ghot alot of def , and u need parry ratio , mag def incrase , speed since u are pure int hit and run , is more useful than fire , and yes lion shouth is better than soul blade force since u have range nuke .

killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

S3by wrote:

killerjc wrote:

Hello guys, I'm quiet new to silkroad and I wanted to make a S/S Nuker( is it better than Spear)?

Yes

killerjc wrote:

and I have read many guides about this class and some questions came up in my mind as I read them, so is it a good idea to do this? Bicheon/Fire/Lightning/40Cold for 30% Snow Shield?

No , go bicheon/light(imbue)/cold

killerjc wrote:

I really dont wanna just do Bicheon/Fire/Ice or Bicheon/Ice/Lightning beacuse I want the Fire nukes, Defenses, and speeds. And also, should I take Lion shout or the Soul Blade Force?

I am not for 67/45/53 masteryes , max or nothink .
Fire nukes more dmg but from fire u woud use only imbue , 2 nukes and mag def but since u are pure int u allready ghot alot of def , and u need parry ratio , mag def incrase , speed since u are pure int hit and run , is more useful than fire , and yes lion shouth is better than soul blade force since u have range nuke .

Thanks for replying! So Bicheon/Fire/Light/40Cold is a bad build? Oh btw, S/S nukers are more expensive than spears because of the shield right?

S3by · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 519 **Location:**

None is a bad build my friend , all depends of your playing stile , i told u my opinion that i hate 45/621/451 build , max or nothink .
And yes s/s is more expensive because there are 2 items and spear only 1 . But as pure int , shield block save your life many times .

killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

okay gotcha

hm..can you also tell me what i must have in Bicheons? I only know that i need the chains, knockdown, knockdown stab, passive skill, new bicheon skill? snake sword dance?

S3by · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 519 **Location:**

New skill reduce psy def and incrase psy attak , u don't need psy attak .

killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

Wow this is awesome!thx alot! but no snake sword dance for luring?

S3by · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 519 **Location:**

Yes , also useful if u want to powerlevel at ongs , but if u want to lure mobs on u , u woud die easy vs many mobs , so better lure with lightning nuke 2,3 mobs .

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

S3by wrote:

New skill reduce psy def and incrase psy attak , u don't need psy attak .

since when did chinese not use phys. attack power? :palm:

it is useful vs int based builds that don't deal much phys damage to you...since it only subtracts phys. defense FROM YOUR SHIELD

killerjc wrote:

no snake sword dance for luring?

definitely, in alexandria it will be a good AoE skill because of the high amount of spawns. even as a finisher attack or lure attack it is a sort of mininuke.

and...to OP: is this a pure int or hybrid we are assessing?

weanLsyc · **Posted:** Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:37 pm

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

S3by wrote:

New skill reduce psy def and incrase psy attak , u don't need psy attak .

since when did chinese not use phys. attack power? :palm:

it is useful vs int based builds that don't deal much phys damage to you...since it only subtracts phys. defense FROM YOUR SHIELD

killerjc wrote:

no snake sword dance for luring?

definitely, in alexandria it will be a good AoE skill because of the high amount of spawns. even as a finisher attack or lure attack it is a sort of mininuke.

and...to OP: is this a pure int or hybrid we are assessing?

Blade force series ( ghost cut blade at 102 ) are much better than snake sword dance skills.. use them as a finisher instead of sword dance.

Petal sword dance lvl. 1 is enough for luring.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

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depends on the preferences
sure it is stronger for single monsters and pwrlvling,
but snake sword series kill groups quicker than the soul blade series

in alex normally its 2-4 monsters at a time,
and at pvp the soul cut will hardly be needed since smash-series have to be spammed for bleed and then it's nukes or knockdown

killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

S3by wrote:

New skill reduce psy def and incrase psy attak , u don't need psy attak .

since when did chinese not use phys. attack power? :palm:

it is useful vs int based builds that don't deal much phys damage to you...since it only subtracts phys. defense FROM YOUR SHIELD

killerjc wrote:

no snake sword dance for luring?

definitely, in alexandria it will be a good AoE skill because of the high amount of spawns. even as a finisher attack or lure attack it is a sort of mininuke.

and...to OP: is this a pure int or hybrid we are assessing?

Sorry forgot to mention yeah, we're talking about Pure Int here

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

then in this regard it would be best to max ice and choose either fire or light, the old fight of which one is better will arise again.

light: if you want speed and want a good overall build
fire: if you can handle being dependant on speed drugs and want build with very high defence and status immunity

killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

then in this regard it would be best to max ice and choose either fire or light, the old fight of which one is better will arise again.

light: if you want speed and want a good overall build
fire: if you can handle being dependant on speed drugs and want build with very high defence and status immunity

Well, to be honest i'm not PvP fan so shall i stick with Light/ice/bicheon and max ice nukes and just put 1 point in snake sword dance for PvE purpose?

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

light/ice would be suitable for that cause.
as for sword dance being the lure attack...
it might attract a few monsters, but the light nuke will do the same and deal very high damage
but you can try it for the few sp it costs
(maxed sword dance will also deal a fair amount, but only lvl 1 might only be for pwrlvling then)

the only thing i see wrong is this:

killerjc wrote:

Well, to be honest i'm not PvP fan so shall i stick with Light/ice/bicheon and max ice nukes and just put 1 point in snake sword dance for PvE purpose?

the damage is abominal, i'd rather stick to maxing light nukes only.
if you want to freeze, just lvl the ice imbue or lvl 1 frost nova instead

killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

light/ice would be suitable for that cause.
as for sword dance being the lure attack...
it might attract a few monsters, but the light nuke will do the same and deal very high damage
but you can try it for the few sp it costs
(maxed sword dance will also deal a fair amount, but only lvl 1 might only be for pwrlvling then)

the only thing i see wrong is this:

killerjc wrote:

Well, to be honest i'm not PvP fan so shall i stick with Light/ice/bicheon and max ice nukes and just put 1 point in snake sword dance for PvE purpose?

the damage is abominal, i'd rather stick to maxing light nukes only.
if you want to freeze, just lvl the ice imbue or lvl 1 frost nova instead

Even the damage on Ice nukes(IceRain/Multishot) are low but i can still use it when thunderbolts are cooling down, right? Also, is the smashing sword series a must or optional?

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Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

killerjc wrote:

Even the damage on Ice nukes(IceRain/Multishot) are low but i can still use it when thunderbolts are cooling down, right?

you can use the up-to-date thunderbolt and then use the 2nd best up-to-date one

Spoiler!

having so many skills as an s/s already, you can save the sp and just take the light ones
the ice ones are optional

killerjc wrote:

Also, is the smashing sword series a must or optional?

optional but highly recommended since they are the easiest and fastest way to deal the bleed status
(the lightning chain can do the same but you cannot spam it)

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killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

So again, i just came up with this build and hoping it will be good as i'm not really planning on lvling to 10x+ and i really wanted snowshield, mag./phy. def, fire/light nukes, and speed...so do you guys recommand 90Bicheon/Fire/Lightning/60Cold for 40% snowshield?

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

if you want a little bit of everything, it'd be:

max bich
max fire
60-80 ice
50-30 light

the ice light depends on wether you want
more speed+ mag. attack and less snow shield+phys defence (towards 60 ice and 50 light)
or
less speed+ mag. attack and more snow shield+phys defence (towards 80 ice 30 light)

you'd save sp like that and have a bit of everything, on the other ahnd you'd lose some % on snow and phys defence, but it is worth a try

XMoshe · **Posted:** Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:12 pm

^ as pure int I'd go 110 fire/bich, 80 ice, 30 light. If you want lower ice/higher light I'd go a bit hybrid. Light is absolutely not needed at max level, you get much more benefits from fire including immunity and fire wall.

A Fire/Bich/Ice nuker will kill a Light/Bich/Ice nuker most of the times.

thamasta21 · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 119 **Location:**

I think you should put more into light cause I see a lot of Lighting S/S Nukers now a days

killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

okay guys, i guess i will give bicheon/light/cold a try, but one of my friend said to have ice imbue instead of light because mobs wont stand a chance to damage as i frostbite them as they''re coming, so what should i choose, damage or safety haha!!? Also, would the icewall help me even if i rarely do pvps?

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

if you hardly do pvp then you can keep it at lvl 1.

ice imbue is only necessary for monsters that pose a threat or are strong enough for the fight to be longer than 2-3 hits (champ-pt giant)

otherwise light imbue is better because the higher damage enables you to achieve more 1 hit kills if you fight the right monsters

killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

alright i guess i will go light imbue and what about the ice wall? should i spend points on it? would it help in pve also?

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

in tight situations yes, but if you use the skills you already have well, it won't be necessary.

if pve only-> no
if pvp-> yes

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killerjc · **Joined:** Jun 2010 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

in tight situations yes, but if you use the skills you already have well, it won't be necessary.

if pve only-> no
if pvp-> yes

Haha thanks alot Pan, looks like im all clear about this now! You helped alot man! THANK YOU!

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

combined imput :love:

and good luck

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