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 Post subject: The Google and Verizon pact
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:55 am 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/technology/10net.html?_r=2&ref=technology

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-aaron/google-verizon-pact-it-ge_b_676194.html

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The proposal is one massive loophole that sets the stage for the corporate takeover of the Internet.


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1. Under their proposal, there would be no Net Neutrality on wireless networks -- meaning anything goes, from blocking websites and applications to pay-for-priority treatment.


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2. Their proposed standard for "non-discrimination" on wired networks is so weak that actions like Comcast's widely denounced blocking of BitTorrent would be allowed.


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3. The deal would let ISPs like Verizon -- instead of Internet users like you -- decide which applications deserve the best quality of service. That's not the way the Internet has ever worked, and it threatens to close the door on tomorrow's innovative applications. (If RealPlayer had been favored a few years ago, would we ever have gotten YouTube?)


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4. The deal would allow ISPs to effectively split the Internet into "two pipes" -- one of which would be reserved for "managed services," a pay-for-play platform for content and applications. This is the proverbial toll road on the information superhighway, a fast lane reserved for the select few, while the rest of us are stuck on the cyber-equivalent of a winding dirt road.


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Next step for this is Congress and the FCC. Where does Obama stand on this anyone know?



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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:00 am 
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seems like google wants to become the internet

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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:28 am 
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And here I was thinking google was the good-guy.

Maybe this is not what they're going for..who knows.

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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:46 am 
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The NYTimes Article is a puff piece if I've ever seen one. For anyone who didn't research further, the spoiler below contains the draft proposal issues by Verizon and Google.

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Most noticeably, note the paragraph about additional services and the regulations that will occur to show that they differ from normal broadband services. In other words, a single website will not be offered as an "additional service" and will remain as a traditional broadband service. An additional service, for example, would be purchasing a dedicated line, separate from your existing broadband connection, that is used specifically for the purpose of Video Conferencing. Such a link can have parity based upload/download speeds, much like a SHDSL connection, but be limited to just video conferencing and thus reduce the overall cost of such a connection.

Basically, what they are saying is they want to provide more services that incorporate use of the internet. The internet as we know it won't change. Rather, additional services will be added in order to give people more choice to fit their tailored, specific needs.

Also, the other recommendations they make are pretty darn good. The deployment of broadband connection in areas that don't have it is something that should of been done a long time ago. I'm all for it, tbh.

Source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/35599242/Veri ... k-Proposal


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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
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I'm glad somebody took time to read through it and give me a somewhat tl;dr version that wasn't "OH MY GOD NET NEUTRALITY WILL DIE WITH THIS" Thank you MrTwilliger for the true summary.

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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
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I liked the Coverage the BBC gave it. A Nice read, and a good perspective.

Here is the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10920871

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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
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regardless of their intentions as outlined by Tedwillinger there need to be solid rules and regulations put in place so that things mentioned by doppleganger don't come to pass...

I wonder what the conservative stance on this is. Tt's very capitalist but then they could just complain that obama is trying to infringe on free speech by controlling the internet...

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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
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i think ppl are making too big a deal outta this

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 Post subject: Re: The Google and Verizon pact
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Unless your a MAJOR Google stock holder I can't see how anyone can be for this.

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