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Post subject: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:41 am |
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Quote: On Tuesday's 'Red Eye' (Weeknights, 3 AM ET on Fox News) television's really early morning zoo, ringleader Greg Gutfeld made a suggestion that is sure to entertain and offend: he wants to build a gay bar right next to the controversial "Ground Zero" mosque.
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Not just any gay bar, but a gay bar that caters to Islamic men. "An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith," Gutfeld said.
"As you know, the Muslim faith doesn't look kindly upon homosexuality," Gutfeld explained. "Which is why I'm building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world."
Gutfled claims his gay bar idea is completely serious and not an elaborate satire: "This is not a joke. I've already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance." http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/08/10/greg- ... que-video/Quote: So, the Muslim investors championing the construction of the new mosque near Ground Zero claim it's all about strengthening the relationship between the Muslim and non-Muslim world.
As an American, I believe they have every right to build the mosque - after all, if they buy the land and they follow the law - who can stop them?
Which is, why, in the spirit of outreach, I've decided to do the same thing.
I'm announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.
This is not a joke. I've already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance.
As you know, the Muslim faith doesn't look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I'm building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.
The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps - but still want to dance.
Bottom line: I hope that the mosque owners will be as open to the bar, as I am to the new mosque. After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero, is no different than mine.
My place, however, will have better music. For investment information, contact me at dailygut.com http://www.dailygut.com/?i=4696I would support this, very much so.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:49 pm |
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Lol, I really really hope this goes through.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:53 pm |
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if i didnt feel like shit, i think id fall over in my chair laughing.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:31 pm |
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I've watched the Red eye before, and got do i hate that guy. He is such a pompous Jackass... Urg.. Anyway.
This would actually be a really bad idea, seriously speaking. Sure, i understand that one of the fears that the American, and other countries populations is that they fear that they will need to change their way of life to Cater to the Muslim's many rules. However, it is easily seen that this gay bar would be erected (not a pun) to fulfill a "suck-it, i didn't get what i want so i'm making your thing as bad as possible" mindset (for lack of a better word/words).
Although i have not given the whole Mosque proposition as much insight as some of you may have, i'm sure that when they were looking for a location to place the mosque, they didn't sit down to a table and have a conversation that went something like "Well, let's see where can we build a Mosque to really screw with the Americans, OH i know lets try to build it as Close to the WTC Memorial site, which was caused by an Extremist group, and we want to make them think that All Muslims are horrible human beings, so this will upset them!! WOOT" I'm pretty sure that the conversation did not go like that, it was more like. "Uh, where can we afford it, and its a good place, that falls within certain Characteristics" (AFAIK Mosques require certain things in-order to be built).
Now, sure there is a Moral thing in play here, i'm not taking away from that. However, i highly doubt that the People who wanted to build this mosque had the Negative intent, which the Gay bar builders do. I mean, as the person said above, if they have all the appropriate things which fall within the law, then sure they can build, which goes the same for the Gay Bar. However, you have to admit that you know, just as much as everyone else that this Gay Bar is merely an attempt at a big "UP YOURS" to the Muslim population.
I fear that this could start a whole lot more than just a couple of Angry words from both parties involved, for all you know, this Gay Bar could become Target 1 for extremists out there, the Mosque could be named. "Heroic Day of 9/11" Mosque or something. To really piss of the Americans... I don't know, the possibilities and Capabilities are infinite.
Personally, being of Roman Catholic descent, and having no actual Muslim Ties i hope to see a HUGE uproar from the American-Muslim population in opposition of this Gay bar, just as there has been in Opposition of this Mosque. Not because i have anything against gays, or because i lean towards the Muslim population, but merely because the reason that the Americans are building this Mosque, is to say FACK YOU to the Muslim Population. And if we are Honest with ourselves, that is a very American thing to do. When you don't like something, sue.
Now of course the Americans are completely right to protest the Mosque, i mean this was a huge blow to them, many many people lost their lives, especially many who attempted to save others lives. I do agree that there needs to be some sort of remembered in their part, and if the American public feels they will be best remembered by not allowing the Mosque build near, then i say they should continue their fight.
Furthermore, just to tie this all together. Did the Americans have this much anger in them at the Sushi Bar which i'm sure has to Exist somewhere near Pearl Harbor? How about the Japanese? Do they burn down all the McDonalds and Starbucks which must be near the Hiroshima and Nagasaki memorial sites?
tl;dr Just Read It.
#Note Complete Personal expression, just as you are all allowed, note i kept it very clean, and was not bashing either Population. I hope that in responses people will not turn to hateful words about either side. I have no affiliation with Either Muslim or American populations, and this was meant to me just a neutral statement than a derogatory argument.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:47 pm |
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serious perspective: clearly the people building the bar are being total assholes, but at the same time they are prooving a point. if those that are building the mosque/rec. center are actully looking to encourage tollerance and build up a community than they probably wont exibit a bunch of intolerance and hatred. being muslim has its restrictions, but being an american does too. one wants the freedom to express their beliefs and demand respect from their fellow man. this being the case it needs to be reciprocated. one cant have their cake and eat it too, despite that being the purpose of cake.
basically, if they want tolerance and respect, than let them show it to a group of people they probably dont tolerate and have no respect for.
personally im glad i dont live near new york. this isnt going to go well.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:08 pm |
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Muslim mosque + gay bar + butt hurt American = no no
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:16 pm |
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LOL, really really bad idea. Does he think he's going to get any business from the muslims?
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:41 pm |
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CeLL wrote: serious perspective: clearly the people building the bar are being total assholes, but at the same time they are prooving a point. if those that are building the mosque/rec. center are actully looking to encourage tollerance and build up a community than they probably wont exibit a bunch of intolerance and hatred. being muslim has its restrictions, but being an american does too. one wants the freedom to express their beliefs and demand respect from their fellow man. this being the case it needs to be reciprocated. one cant have their cake and eat it too, despite that being the purpose of cake.
basically, if they want tolerance and respect, than let them show it to a group of people they probably dont tolerate and have no respect for.
personally im glad i dont live near new york. this isnt going to go well. Comparingan American and a Moslim 
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:44 pm |
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not comparing.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:10 pm |
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Jesus dude the people building this are ridonculously pompous, however, this is quite hilarious.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:28 pm |
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These kind of people motivate terrorists.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:31 pm |
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Rofl'd so hard lol. I hope it goes trough.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:38 pm |
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heroo wrote: These kind of people motivate mentally weak people to lash out in dangerously aggresive ways similar to a child. fixed.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:40 pm |
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CeLL wrote: heroo wrote: These kind of people motivate mentally weak people to lash out in dangerously aggresive ways similar to a child. fixed.  +1 However, not even children do that. I would say a mentally unstable child, but you guys all get the point 
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:43 pm |
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i could have worded it better but, yeah. you know what i mean.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:51 pm |
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It was clever regardless.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:52 pm |
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McLovin1t wrote: It was clever regardless. im sorry, you have to tell me im a fail troll or you arent considered kewl. thanx tho
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:00 pm |
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i hate gay people some times...especially now...
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:05 pm |
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CeLL wrote: McLovin1t wrote: It was clever regardless. im sorry, you have to tell me im a fail troll or you arent considered kewl. thanx thoi dun get it? oh luls i quoted it and i saw the small writing haha. lol i didnt say you were trolling?
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:06 pm |
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yeah, i know. thats my point.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:12 pm |
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CeLL wrote: heroo wrote: These kind of people motivate mentally weak people to lash out in dangerously aggresive ways similar to a child. fixed. or simply a terrorist. it doesn't matter how you call them, more important is what they do. these people are f*cked and are willing to give their lifes up just to kill other. now these f*gs come over and decide they want a little attention, so they build a Gay Bar next to a mosque. it's like they're looking for some revenge, otherwise they wouldn't have wanted to build a gay bar next to the mosque. these unbelieveble stupid gay people are not only risking their own lifes but are also risking the life of other innocent people. if they want to protest against the mosque, it's allright by me, but do it in a more respectable way. these people clearly don't give a shit about the mosque being built there, but are simply looking for some attention. god i hate ****.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:16 pm |
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And they wouldn't build a mosque next to a memorial for acts done by extremists following the religion of Islam.  but that's a whooooooole 'nother story.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:16 pm |
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I think a Gay terrorist will hijack a plain and put it in the Mosk.
Wait what?
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:20 pm |
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McLovin1t wrote: And they wouldn't build a mosque next to a memorial for acts done by extremists following the religion of Islam.  but that's a whooooooole 'nother story. there has been a mosque there for years if i'm not mistaken. it's the media that's been blowing it up now and the stupid people ofcourse always follow the media. my point is, that mosque hasn't been built there to disrespect or to provoke the people that lost loved ones during 9/11. it's been built there for genuine muslims to practice their religion. this gaybar is being built for one sole purpose: to provoke and disrespect the mosque and thereby the islam.
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:24 pm |
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Doppleganger wrote: I was thinking about this a long time ago and now it could actually happen..... phuck the mosque i hope that gay bar becomes the most popular one in the whole city. You say this is a bad idea and that peoples lives will be lost all because they build a gay bar next to a mosque and you want us to have tolerance for that?! oohhh no everyone don't piss off the muslims because they'll start blowing themselves up if we don't do what they want. it's not the muslims that are pissed off. but retards who claim they're muslims. and these retards for sure will see this as a provocation. so stop acting stupid and start thinking. this gaybar won't help anyone a shit, it'll only bring problems. a gaybar for muslims, are you f*cking serious?
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Post subject: Re: Proposition to build Gay Bar next to mosque, next to WTC Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:27 pm |
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heroo wrote: Doppleganger wrote: I was thinking about this a long time ago and now it could actually happen..... phuck the mosque i hope that gay bar becomes the most popular one in the whole city. You say this is a bad idea and that peoples lives will be lost all because they build a gay bar next to a mosque and you want us to have tolerance for that?! oohhh no everyone don't piss off the muslims because they'll start blowing themselves up if we don't do what they want. it's not the muslims that are pissed off. but retards who claim they're muslims. and these retards for sure will see this as a provocation. so stop acting stupid and start thinking. this gaybar won't help anyone a shit, it'll only bring problems. a gaybar for muslims, are you f*cking serious I lol'd. 
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