Silkroad Online Forums

A community forum for the free online game Silkroad Online. Discuss Silkroad Online, read up on guides, and build your character and skills.

Faq Search Members Chat  Register Profile Login

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 28 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:59 pm 
Forum God
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13206
Location: Life
Alright, we all know that nothing is "free". Even if you get something for free, like a meal or something. Someone, somewhere, has to pay for it, right?

So, How might society pay for your "free" goods?

Goods = A tangible, or material, thing that people want and for which they will pay.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:03 pm 
Elite Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5336
Location:
Guildwars2
Something that has been paid does not need to be paid a second time if I am correct in what I think you are asking.

_________________
Image

Guild Wars 2, Isle of Janthir (NA)

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:06 pm 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1789
Location:
Artist Corner
Is the question 'What price does society pay for your "free" goods?'

Taxes on that item. That is assuming the government doesn't waste that money.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:19 pm 
Forum God
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13206
Location: Life
Deadsolid wrote:
Is the question 'What price does society pay for your "free" goods?'

Taxes on that item. That is assuming the government doesn't waste that money.

Perhaps. But no, the question is how. Exactly has I phrased it.

Love wrote:
Something that has been paid does not need to be paid a second time if I am correct in what I think you are asking.

But who pays for it originally?

Like think about it, say you get a free meal or something. Someone already had to pay for the food and labor that goes into your "free" meal. How did/do they pay for it?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:34 pm 
Advanced Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2147
Location: Dead.(No Longer With Us)
How can you ask how they specifically paid for something when you are being too general to begin with?

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:36 pm 
Forum God
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13206
Location: Life
Good question. I blame my teacher.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:48 pm 
Veteran Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3452
Location:
Alps
Since you're speaking in Economics terms, You pay for free items by what you give up. You give up something to get it. Whether it be time, energy etc. You want a free soap bar? You give up your rights as you become a tester for it, taking any risk it may come with. You want to try this free sample of juice, you give up time and what you were doing in exchange. Sometimes you must give them your attention in a way so as you get a free product, you must first sit through like an hour of why you need to buy it. That's what it means in economics when they say nothing is free. To get a free something, you must give up something in exchange.

_________________
.curve wrote:
Unless Silkroad has a hole I can stick it in, I prefer spending money on the girlfriend.

Image
Image
Spoiler!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:50 pm 
Forum God
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13206
Location: Life
Goseki wrote:
Since you're speaking in Economics terms, You pay for free items by what you give up. You give up something to get it. Whether it be time, energy etc. You want a free soap bar? You give up your rights as you become a tester for it, taking any risk it may come with. You want to try this free sample of juice, you give up time and what you were doing in exchange. Sometimes you must give them your attention in a way so as you get a free product, you must first sit through like an hour of why you need to buy it. That's what it means in economics when they say nothing is free. To get a free something, you must give up something in exchange.

Win. Thank you sir. <3


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:53 pm 
Advanced Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2147
Location: Dead.(No Longer With Us)
Goseki wrote:
Since you're speaking in Economics terms, You pay for free items by what you give up. You give up something to get it. Whether it be time, energy etc. You want a free soap bar? You give up your rights as you become a tester for it, taking any risk it may come with. You want to try this free sample of juice, you give up time and what you were doing in exchange. Sometimes you must give them your attention in a way so as you get a free product, you must first sit through like an hour of why you need to buy it. That's what it means in economics when they say nothing is free. To get a free something, you must give up something in exchange.


ORLY? :roll:

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:50 am 
Veteran Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3452
Location:
Alps
Yea, took Macro in college one semester cuz I was bored and had a bunch of extra hours left i needed to fill. One of the first thing he talked about, than he gave us all candy.

_________________
.curve wrote:
Unless Silkroad has a hole I can stick it in, I prefer spending money on the girlfriend.

Image
Image
Spoiler!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:35 am 
Advanced Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2147
Location: Dead.(No Longer With Us)
Goseki wrote:
Yea, took Macro in college one semester cuz I was bored and had a bunch of extra hours left i needed to fill. One of the first thing he talked about, than he gave us all candy.


Was it free? lol

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:49 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4441
Location: SHEEKA JOOM BA BOOM BAH!! BAM! BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Farking advertisment tasdik. if mcdonalds gives someone a free burger, its advertisement. mcd covers the cost, but no on3 just wants a burger, they want french fries and a drink and they wanna come back next week before the mcrib leaves us again for another 6 months.

_________________
Image
^^Thanks Thomas42


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:58 am 
Advanced Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2147
Location: Dead.(No Longer With Us)
CeLL wrote:
Farking advertisment tasdik. if mcdonalds gives someone a free burger, its advertisement. mcd covers the cost, but no on3 just wants a burger, they want french fries and a drink and they wanna come back next week before the mcrib leaves us again for another 6 months.


There Cell goes, talking in McOnmics-The one true way to teach fat people about the ways of the world.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:31 am 
Common Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 124
Location: Lurking
Goseki wrote:
Since you're speaking in Economics terms, You pay for free items by what you give up. You give up something to get it. Whether it be time, energy etc. You want a free soap bar? You give up your rights as you become a tester for it, taking any risk it may come with. You want to try this free sample of juice, you give up time and what you were doing in exchange. Sometimes you must give them your attention in a way so as you get a free product, you must first sit through like an hour of why you need to buy it. That's what it means in economics when they say nothing is free. To get a free something, you must give up something in exchange.


-opportunity costs

_________________
Image

Spoiler!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:15 am 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 7923
Location:
Off Topic
CeLL wrote:
Farking advertisment tasdik. if mcdonalds gives someone a free burger, its advertisement. mcd covers the cost, but no on3 just wants a burger, they want french fries and a drink and they wanna come back next week before the mcrib leaves us again for another 6 months.
That's a WIN.. xD

Btw: Free isn't always free.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:57 am 
Elite Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5219
Location: Attending your mothers sexual needs :)
CeLL wrote:
Farking advertisment tasdik. if mcdonalds gives someone a free burger, its advertisement. mcd covers the cost, but no on3 just wants a burger, they want french fries and a drink and they wanna come back next week before the mcrib leaves us again for another 6 months.

That

_________________
My sig died


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:05 pm 
SRF's Princess
User avatar
Offline

Joined: May 2007
Posts: 8570
Location: I'm at- Ooh something shiny!!
sex is free (if you play it well)

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:47 pm 
Site Contributor
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4474
Location:
Off Topic
There are multiple ways. Big one is the government, but we all know they get there most of their money from a form taxation, which people pay. Private donations are more for charities and non-profit organizations. Advertisement can keep a lot of stuff free on the internet or a lot cheaper, so don't forget to watch annoying commercial, it keeps it free. There are more ways to keep things free, but these are the most common and known ways :D

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:49 pm 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6618
Location:
Off Topic
You don't always have to pay in money.

_________________
''When I die, make sure they bury me upside down, so that the world can kiss my ass.''


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:59 pm 
Site Contributor
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4474
Location:
Off Topic
heroo wrote:
You don't always have to pay in money.

I know thats true but could u give me a good example other than prostitution :D

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:42 pm 
Elite Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5219
Location: Attending your mothers sexual needs :)
Well let's say you release a new product. Ok, that's done. But how do you get people who buy your stuff? You'll need to advertise. This costs money. Now let's say you have quite a few customers, but you want to increase the size of the market you are selling to. A good idea would be giving free stuff,(if you buy something, or in some cases, just free). The customers you already have will come, but they will also make mouth-to-mouth advertisement, which is one of the biggest advertisement ways there are. They will be like 'Ooh go to xxx they give free burgers!' and your brand will get more popular. More popular brand= more customers = more power in the market.

For example; I ordered a free mousepad with an image on it from an internet site. However, I needed to post a message on my facebook wall I recieved a free mousepad.

_________________
My sig died


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:51 pm 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6618
Location:
Off Topic
Gaige wrote:
heroo wrote:
You don't always have to pay in money.

I know thats true but could u give me a good example other than prostitution :D


knowledge, love etc. you can pay with anything that the other finds interesting.

_________________
''When I die, make sure they bury me upside down, so that the world can kiss my ass.''


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:53 pm 
Site Contributor
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4474
Location:
Off Topic
heroo wrote:
Gaige wrote:
heroo wrote:
You don't always have to pay in money.

I know thats true but could u give me a good example other than prostitution :D


knowledge, love etc. you can pay with anything that the other finds interesting.


true :sohappy:

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:25 am 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7129
Location:
Venus
i'm minoring in economics

that is all

_________________
ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:54 am 
Elite Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 5168
Location: Palmdale, CA
Freedom isn't free.

_________________
Speak the truth, even if your voice shakes.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:41 am 
Dom's Slut
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13791
Location:
Guildwars2
Taking economics this year.

_________________
ImageImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:35 am 
Advanced Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2147
Location: Dead.(No Longer With Us)
.curve wrote:
Freedom isn't free.


Image

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Econmics question.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:52 am 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 639
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Tasdik wrote:
Alright, we all know that nothing is "free".



wait what? really?!?!

Then who Do i need to pay for the sun??

I dont want the sun to stop working... :nowant:

_________________
6 truths
1.You cannot touch all your teeth with your tongue.
2.All idiots, after reading truth 1, will try it.
3.And discover that the first truth is a lie.
4.You're smiling now because you're an idiot.
5.You soon will forward this to another idiot.
6.There's still a stupid smile on your face.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 28 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 27 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group