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A semi-interesting video about a school field trip to a mosque.
Kids get suspended from school for disagreeing with Obama, for wearing an American flag T-Shirt, for praying to God... but it's okay to take them to pray if you call him Allah this country.
Has anyone ever been to a place of religion while on a field trip? This just seems out of place.
I really can't stand religious fanatics (any religion)....they ought to be just amongst themselves...forever....until they start hating each other for not being fanatic enough....lol
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Fiction wrote:
A semi-interesting video about a school field trip to a mosque.
Kids get suspended from school for disagreeing with Obama, for wearing an American flag T-Shirt, for praying to God... but it's okay to take them to pray if you call him Allah this country.
Why do about 90% of your posts talk about how much you don't like Obama?
We know already, Hes black , hes in the white house, people like you don't like him, its ok, you can go hang with the tea baggers and the people who wanted him impeached because he wasn't a *citizen* or something.
I know if he was white you wouldn't be talkin so much trash and making useless threads that no one gives a shit about.
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... they were asked if they would join. they had the right to say no. there is nothing wrong with pray in schools so long as it isnt enforced by the school. if the children choose to do so there is nothing wrong with it. i used to participate in a prayer circle in my highschool.
i dont know about the alledged accusations of terrorism so i cant comment on that. this just seems like some glenn beck, blown out of propportion, nationalist proppaganda.
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Bananaman wrote:
Fiction wrote:
A semi-interesting video about a school field trip to a mosque.
Kids get suspended from school for disagreeing with Obama, for wearing an American flag T-Shirt, for praying to God... but it's okay to take them to pray if you call him Allah this country.
Why do about 90% of your posts talk about how much you don't like Obama?
We know already, Hes black , hes in the white house, people like you don't like him, its ok, you can go hang with the tea baggers and the people who wanted him impeached because he wasn't a *citizen* or something.
I know if he was white you wouldn't be talkin so much trash and making useless threads that no one gives a shit about.
... Wow... You couldn't be more wrong... 90% of my post are about me not liking Obama? I'd like you to find 10% of my post count that I even speak of Obama in...
Typical hater tactics... Make up shit, call names, use race card, and completely miss the point.
First off, Yes, I don't agree with Obama-This post had nothing to do with Obama- but it isn't because he is black. I simply disagree with his policies and ideology, just as I disagreed with much of Bush's policies. The only difference is... Bush is white so when I disagree with him you can't say I'm a racist, you stupid race baiter... It's people like Bananaman that continue to make everything about race because they don't have a Farking clue.
i watched this video.. and im a muslim.. i am actually shocked that the teacher and mosque let some children pray .. how ever i noticed alot of this stuff is bull shit! and the word the sheik or imam said.. wasn't clear and didn't get the rest of what he meant by that. and if he meant some thing as this lady described he should be banned from the mosque! and once i was at a field trip at a catholic church and i saw them praying and explaining christianity was kinda cool to learn how they do prayer and have a couple of information about christianity.
... they were asked if they would join. they had the right to say no. there is nothing wrong with pray in schools so long as it isnt enforced by the school. if the children choose to do so there is nothing wrong with it. i used to participate in a prayer circle in my highschool.
Yeah but they're kids, they don't know better.
It's not even the fact that the kids were shown how to pray, it's that the muslims there used the event to try and convert kids rather than give an honest history or background on Islam.
The supposed links to terrorism were unnecessary, that's just more fear/hatemongering. Let the police/FBI/whatever worry about what may or may not be true about the church's connections.
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Reise wrote:
CeLL wrote:
... they were asked if they would join. they had the right to say no. there is nothing wrong with pray in schools so long as it isnt enforced by the school. if the children choose to do so there is nothing wrong with it. i used to participate in a prayer circle in my highschool.
Yeah but they're kids, they don't know better.
It's not even the fact that the kids were shown how to pray, it's that the muslims there used the event to try and convert kids rather than give an honest history or background on Islam.
The supposed links to terrorism were unnecessary, that's just more fear/hatemongering. Let the police/FBI/whatever worry about what may or may not be true about the church's connections.
they werent Farking kindergarteners. when i was those kids age i could decide whether or not to participate in the on goings. clearly some of them were also as it was only SOME of the kids. i myself did studies of islam by going to a muslims house and learning things from them. sure, i didnt understand everything, but i didnt just suddenly start praying and changing the direction i scoop my soup, or wash my hands before i pee. im certainly not implying that my will and intelligence is above normal, im just saying that if someone fell prey in that scenario and was truly victimized than they were lacking signifigantly in mental and will power. dont enable peoples stupidity and ignorance.
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Cell says, Glenn Beck brainwashes adults, but these people tell out right lies to these kids and ask them if they would like to pray to Allah... It's perfectly okay because these kids understand exactly what's going on... Yet adults can so easily be brainwashed...
CeLL wrote:
...im certainly not implying that my will and intelligence is above normal...
cpinney wrote:
i like blueberry popsicles.
Please do not come into this thread spreading your lies cpinney!
:palm: Cell says, Glenn Beck brainwashes adults, but these people tell out right lies to these kids and ask them if they would like to pray to Allah... It's perfectly okay because these kids understand exactly what's going on... Yet adults can so easily be brainwashed...
CeLL wrote:
...im certainly not implying that my will and intelligence is above normal...
cpinney wrote:
i like blueberry popsicles.
Please do not come into this thread spreading your lies cpinney!
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glenn beck brainwashes those lacking will power and mental capacity. no different than what i said about the children (some felt compelled to pray, others clearly didnt.) dont pull a glenn beck here.
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CeLL wrote:
glenn beck brainwashes those lacking will power and mental capacity. no different than what i said about the children (some felt compelled to pray, others clearly didnt.) dont pull a glenn beck here.
Based off misinformation, which was clearly shown in the video.... Either way it's wrong...
While we got him in the subject, what exactly is he brainwashing people to do again?
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they werent asked to give their live to allah. they were asked if they wanted to participate in the prayer. its called hands on learning. they werent required to participate in it. if they were preyed upon and victimized, they allowed it.
read the first volume of main kampf. mr beck is so remenisant of hitler it isnt funny. the mannerisms by which he is ivoking his following is far to similar to the nationalism spurn by mr hitler. i anticipate some major problems in the future.
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CeLL wrote:
they werent asked to give their live to allah. they were asked if they wanted to participate in the prayer. its called hands on learning. they werent required to participate in it. if they were preyed upon and victimized, they allowed it.
read the first volume of main kampf. mr beck is so remenisant of hitler it isnt funny. the mannerisms by which he is ivoking his following is far to similar to the nationalism spurn by mr hitler. i anticipate some major problems in the future.
... Getting someone to do something works best when you make them believe it's their idea to do it. Children do not always know the history of the world when they are born into it, so they only have what we tell them. If we tell them that Islam is something, which this society has made them think is a good thing(like women's right to vote), ofc they are going to pursue it... but you think preying is where it stops? That's where the indoctrination part comes in... Tell'em what they wanna hear, they're young they don't know better. Team that up with people like Gore telling kids they don't need to listen to their parents because they are smarter than them... My point is, it's not the schools place to subject the kids to an ideology/religion. They are there to teach the kids how to learn and what they need to know to be functional adults in this society.
><' The Hitler thing ofc... You speak so generally of everything... with your logic you could make anyone with any kind of political stance look like Hitler.
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><' The Hitler thing ofc... You speak so generally of everything... with your logic you could make anyone with any kind of political stance look like Hitler.
no. only a moron cant see that statements like Barack Obama “hates white people” and “hates white culture” are a clear attempt to incite nationalism and racism. you are a moron if you cant see this.
and as far as people only knowing what they are told, this shit happens with adults too. Most of america has been raised on a big fabricated version of history. Its our place to either be sheeple and be herded in the direction we are told, or seek things out for ourselves. Those children didn’t convert to islam instantly. They had a hands on experience with that culture. Lies or no its their place to either allow themselves to choose to believe them or to seek for the truth themselves.
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I forget you guys have been banging that drum ever since those words came out of his mouth, it's almost as if he called Obama a house-N-----. At the time Beck made that statement, Obama was publicly going after a white police officer and making it out that he was a racist... Our own President going out and saying this white police officer acted stupidly. He had no business even addressing the matter. Beck made the statement after that event took place. It isn't hard to see.-look whose church obama sat in for years, the man is a black racist himself... To make the statement Obama has a deep seeded hatred of white ppl really wouldn't be that much of a leap, givin all the special interest groups and his past. You-much like the MSM- has turned it into something it is not. Still you can say Bush is a racist, bush hates black people, bush is the devil... and nothing is wrong with that, because Bush is white.(Bush has done more for black people then black ppl have done for themselves)
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bush doesnt hate black people, he hates our country and what it stands for. "I don't give a god damn, I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way. Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a god damn piece of paper!" George W. Bush
and those who dont know the past are destine to relive it. people need to look more into the movement of glenn beck and the rise of hitler.
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/response to Cell(weigh in if you want) Cell maybe it's you that should go back and study history and study what the hell you are talking about with Glenn Beck and stop getting your information from blogs, like Keith Olbermann. Of course you can pick similarities between Hitler's rise to power and what is going on with Glenn Beck, but at the same time you could draw the same conclusions with anyone gaining popularity. There were great men who had the same kind of rise to power as evil men... You have no clue what his message is, you just see an evil man with an evil agenda behind everything he says.
Maybe it's me but I just see myself having a lot more in common with those "teabaggers" who believe in smaller central government, the free-market system, the constitution, and good old family values. Over the left which believe the government should have control over most aspects of our lives.
/short story of my life...explaining a little bit of how I came to see eye to eye with the "teabaggers" I was once a liberal when I was in my teens, I watch the Micheal Moores and listened to the Al Gores... I honestly disliked this country, thought Bush was evil, all that. (still don't like him) I took a trip to Sweden(great country!) which kinda opened my eyes. It just wasn't what I had imagined. I came back to America, started working my ass off to put myself through school and get a house,(even started a little family) and I realized that shit the democrats and republicans were talking about was nothing but lies to put us under a welfare state. -I believe in America, hard work pays off.
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