Mass deaths = omen?

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Silo, two words, opportunity cost. In order for a beggar to beg, he must have chosen to NOT do something else with his time. Like finding a job/getting paid. Nothing is free. Nothing. Everything must be worked for in some fashion or another.

CeLL · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:35 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:

CeLL wrote:

nope.

If I give you 1$, you don't have to work for it, you don't have to pay for it, you still have it without doing anything. By definition, it's called free. Therefore your statement is void.

i didnt have to pay for the money but someone did.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:03 pm

CeLL wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

CeLL wrote:

nope.

If I give you 1$, you don't have to work for it, you don't have to pay for it, you still have it without doing anything. By definition, it's called free. Therefore your statement is void.

i didnt have to pay for the money but someone did.

Maybe, but for you, you didn't pay anything, so it's free. For others who pay, maybe not. But still free is free, and it exists.

Ningyotsukai-san wrote:

Wouldn't really say it's unintentional for the person to be wherever... I can sit at a bus stop on my way to campus, it's just an aspect of my own decisions to my final destination, not just random happenings...

and yes, being somewhere's a condition, however:

Say I'm walking on my way home and run into someone that gives an item for no materialistic trade. M'kay, yes ...that's "free" in terms of a materialistic exchange from both parties.

If, say I decided to go another route that I would never encountered said person, then one could say that the trade to receive that item was my decision to go that direction, not anything I currently had on my person.

I know what a trade is; It's an exchange of sorts (things not specified) for another's goods or services. I'm just giving the aspect of nothing's free, in a different light, of the exchange that the condition is met through choice so that the "trade" can take place... If the choices don't lead to the specific condition, the "trade," so to speak, wouldn't happen.

Don't mind the dribble, but the "decision to go a certain destination to meet a specific condition" makes it so an exchange, so to speak, happens.

So, Choice to condition in trade for good(s). Although, I'd expect you to say "not losing anything", again. I'd just say that the "lost item" is simply the other decisions not taken.

I personally just think it's a bit of an outward way of looking at it ...lol

You are simply trying to mix a condition and a trade into a same group. There is indeed a link between them but they are not one same thing. Being in place is a condition but it is not a trade. The decision of route you made is a part of "going go to work" (for example). Indeed you spent your energy to go to work, to be at a certain location. But's that only mean that you are trading (something) in order to go to work. And coincidently, you happen to be a condition to have the money, so it's not that you are trading your energy in order to have that money.

Another example of free is the Big Bang, the creation of the universe. By definition, before the creation of the first universe, there is nothing. So to speak, there is nothing you can trade in order to have the Big Bang. Yes, and it's called free.

CeLL · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:12 pm

no it doesnt, you are wrong mr. wong.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:04 pm

CeLL wrote:

no it doesnt, you are wrong mr. wong.

yes it is, big bang is free, since you have nothing to trade with

CeLL · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:28 pm

no it isnt free. that infinitely dense ball of mass gave its energy. and it will come collecting again some day when it once again condenses.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:03 pm

gave its energy to who/what?

CeLL · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:06 pm

the universe.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:38 pm

CeLL wrote:

the universe.

nope, the universe is made after the big bang, you cannot trade something to something that didn't exist.

CeLL · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:56 pm

the universe is comprised of the mass within which the big bang gave its energy. i dont get your attempt to play on words honestly.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Once again..

Quote:

Thousands of dead turtle doves rained down on roofs and cars in an Italian town in the latest in a growing spate of mass animal deaths across the globe.
Residents in Faenza described the birds falling to the ground like 'little Christmas balls' with strange blue stains on their beaks.
Initial tests on up to 8,000 of the doves indicated that the blue stain could have been caused by poisoning or hypoxia.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1AO0ML5Sx

Damned, damn it! when the mass deaths of animals is going to end!

EvGa · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 2612 **Location:** Texas

Happens all the time.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

EvGa wrote:

Happens all the time.

Resulting in a mass death? No.. I don't agree.
However, there's definitely something fishy going on and more to the story than we're getting.

chickenfeather · **Posted:** Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:18 pm

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8& ... 5af104a22b

A map of the locations of all these mass deaths.

Love · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 5336 **Location:**

aliens, is always them.

CeLL · **Posted:** Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:18 am

you mean government create alien illusions.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:56 am

EvGa wrote:

Happens all the time.

Nope. If something happens all the time, it won't be an interest of the newspapers. That's how it works.

McLovin1t · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 1825 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

EvGa wrote:

Happens all the time.

Nope. If something happens all the time, it won't be an interest of the newspapers. That's how it works.

Untrue, crime happens all the time, yet is all over the papers every day

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:32 am

McLovin1t wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

EvGa wrote:

Happens all the time.

Nope. If something happens all the time, it won't be an interest of the newspapers. That's how it works.

Untrue, crime happens all the time, yet is all over the papers every day

Yes. But it's on local newspaper only, like a small report. People on forums don't bother to talk about it. You don't come here to discuss a local robbery or car accident, unless it has a big impact on the society.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

CeLL wrote:

you mean government create alien illusions.

Illusions mixed with truths?

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:05 pm

8000 turtle doves, thousands of devil crabs http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-bay.html
Magnetic field changes

2012

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

There's only one thing I gotta tell ya @NuclearSilo
Just read my post.. 8 above for the clue. lulz

NuclearSilo wrote:

Magnetic field changes

Meh.. I don't think so

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:21 pm

*BlackFox wrote:

There's only one thing I gotta tell ya @NuclearSilo
Just read my post.. 8 above for the clue. lulz

NuclearSilo wrote:

Magnetic field changes

Meh.. I don't think so

Well, they said so. Do you have a compass?

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

Well, they said so. Do you have a compass?

It's Just a theory and yes.
Btw: only a few species fly straight down. Well, what about fish, devil crabs?

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