Post subject: Champion League 2011/2012 - 18/04/12: FINAL - 19th May 2012
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:01 pm
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Welcome to the SRF Champions League thread, and as this years competition moves off into the group stages here are said groups from today's draw.
POT 1: MANCHESTER UNITED, Barcelona, CHELSEA, Bayern Munich, ARSENAL, Real Madrid, Porto and Inter Milan POT 2: AC Milan, Lyon, Shakthar Donetsk, Valencia, Benfica, Villarreal, CSKA Moscow and Marseille POT 3: Zenit St Petersburg, Ajax, Leverkusen, Olympiakos, Lille, Basle, BATE Borisov and MANCHESTER CITY POT 4: Borussia Dortmund, Napoli, Dinamo Zagreb, APOEL Nicosia, Genk, Viktoria Plzen, Otelul Galati and Trabzonspor
Group A FC Bayern München (GER) Villarreal CF (ESP) Manchester City FC (ENG) SSC Napoli (ITA
Group B FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) LOSC Lille Métropole (FRA) Trabzonspor AŞ (TUR)
Group C Manchester United FC (ENG) SL Benfica (POR) FC Basel 1893 (SUI) FC Oţelul Galaţi (ROU)
Group D Real Madrid CF (ESP) Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) AFC Ajax (NED) GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Group E Chelsea FC (ENG) Valencia CF (ESP) Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) KRC Genk (BEL)
Group F Arsenal FC (ENG) Olympique de Marseille (FRA) Olympiacos FC (GRE) Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Group G FC Porto (POR) FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) FC Zenit St Petersburg (RUS) APOEL FC (CYP)
Group H FC Barcelona (ESP) AC Milan (ITA) FC BATE Borisov (BLR) FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
The first round of fixtures will be played on September 13/14.
Here are the results for tonights games (13/09/11)
Champions League - Group E: Chelsea 2-0 Bayer 04 Leverkusen KRC Genk 0-0 Valencia CF
Champions League - Group F: Olympiacos FC 0-1 Olympique de Marseille Borussia Dortmund 1-1 Arsenal
Champions League - Group G: Porto 2-1 Shakhtar Donetsk APOEL FC 2-1 Zenit
Champions League - Group H: FC Barcelona 2-2 AC Milan FC Viktoria Plzeň 1-1 BATE
Here are the results for tonights games (14/09/11)
Champions League - Group A: Villarreal CF 0-2 FC Bayern München Manchester City 1-1 Napoli
Champions League - Group B: FC Internazionale 0-1 Trabzonspor Lille Métropole 2-2 CSKA Moskva
Champions League - Group C: SL Benfica 1-1 Manchester United FC Basel 2-1 Oţelul Galaţi
Champions League - Group D: Olympique Lyon 0-0 AFC Ajax Dinamo Zagreb 0-1 Real Madrid CF
Here are the results for tonights games (27/09/11)
Champions League - Group A: FC Bayern München 2-0 Manchester City Napoli 2-0 Villarreal CF
Champions League - Group B: Lille Métropole 1-1 Trabzonspor CSKA Moskva 2-3 FC Internazionale
Champions League - Group C: Oţelul Galaţi 0-1 SL Benfica Manchester United 3-3 FC Basel
Champions League - Group D: Olympique Lyon 2-0 Dinamo Zagreb Real Madrid CF 3-0 AFC Ajax
Here are the results for tonights games (28/09/11)
Champions League - Group E: Valencia 1-1 Chelsea Leverkusen 2-0 Genk
Champions League - Group F: Marseille 3-0 B Dortmund Arsenal 2-1 Olympiakos
Champions League - Group G: Zenit 3-1 FC Porto Shakhtar Donets 1-1 Apoel Nicosia
Champions League - Group H: BATE Borisov 0-5 Barcelona AC Milan 2-0 Plzen
Here are the results for tonights games (18/10/11)
Champions League - Group A: Man City 2-1 Villarreal Napoli 1-1 Bay Munich
Champions League - Group B: Lille 0-1 Inter CSKA Moscow 3-0 Trabzonspor
Champions League - Group C: Otelul Galati 0-2 Man Utd Basel 0-2 Benfica
Champions League - Group D: Dinamo Zagreb 0-2 Ajax Real Mad'd 4-0 Lyon
Here are the results for tonights games (01/10/11)
Champions League - Group E: Genk 1-1 Chelsea Leverkusen 1-3 Valencia
Champions League - Group F: Dortmund 1-3 Olympiakos Arsenal 0-0 Marseille
Champions League - Group G: Zenit 3-1 FC Porto Shakhtar Donets 1-1 Apoel Nicosia
Champions League - Group H: Plzen 0-4 Barcelona AC Milan 1-1 BATE BorisovPlzen
Here are the results for tonights games (22/11/11)
Champions League - Group A: FC Bayern München 3-1 Villarreal CF Napoli 2-1 Manchester City
Champions League - Group B: Trabzonspor 1-1 FC Internazionale CSKA Moskva 0-2 Lille Métropole
Champions League - Group C: Manchester United 2-2 SL Benfica Oţelul Galaţi 2-3 FC Basel
Champions League - Group D: AFC Ajax 0-0 Olympique Lyon Real Madrid CF 6-2 Dinamo Zagreb
Here are the results for tonights games (06/12/11)
Champions League - Group E: Chelsea 3-0 Valencia Genk 1-1 Leverkusen
Champions League - Group F: B Dortmund 2-3 Marseille Olympiakos 3-1 Arsenal
Champions League - Group G: FC Porto 0-0 Zenit Apoel Nicosia 0-2 Shakhtar Donetsk
Champions League - Group H: Barcelona 4-0 BATE Borisov Plzen 2-2 AC Milan
Here are the results for tonights games (07/12/11)
Champions League - Group A: Villarreal CF 2-0 Napoli Manchester City 2-0 FC Bayern München
Champions League - Group B: Trabzonspor 1-1 Lille Métropole CSKA Moskva 2-1 FC Internazionale
Champions League - Group C: SL Benfica 1-0 Oţelul Galaţi FC Basel 2-1 Manchester United
Champions League - Group D: AFC Ajax 0-3 Real Madrid CF Dinamo Zagreb 1-7 Olympique Lyon
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results for games (15/02/12)
AC Milan 4-0Arsenal
Zenit 3-2 Benfica
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results for games (21/02/12)
CSKA Moscow 1-1 Real Madrid
Napoli 3-1 Chelsea
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results for games (22/02/12)
Marseille 1-0 Inter Milan
Basel 1-0 B.Munic
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results for games (6/03/12)
Arsenal 3-0 AC Milan
Benfica 2-0 Zenit
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results for games (7/03/12)
Lyon 0-1 Apoel Nicosia
Barcelona 7-1 Bayer Leverkusen
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results for games (13/03/12)
Inter Milan 2-1 Marseille
B.Munic 7-0 Basel
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results for games (14/03/12)
Real Madrid 4-1 CSKA Moscow
Chelsea 4-1 Napoli
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Over all results 1st RnD
Arsenal 3-4 AC Milan Benfica 4-3 Zenit Apoel Nicosia(4)1-1(3) Lyon < decided on pens Barcelona 10-2 Bayer Leverkusen Basel 1-7B.Munic Inter Milan 2-2 Marseille < Away Goals Real Madrid 5-2 CSKA Moscow Chelsea 5-4 Napoli
Quater Final Teams
AC Milan Benfica Apoel Nicosia Barcelona B.Munic Marseille Real Madrid Chelsea
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quater Final
APOEL Nicosia v Real Madrid
Marseille v Bayern Munich
Benfica v Chelsea
AC Milan v Barcelona
*First legs to be played on March 27/28 *Second legs to be played on April 3/4
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Semi Final
Marseille/Bayern Munich v APOEL Nicosia/Real Madrid
Benfica/Chelsea v AC Milan/Barcelona
*First legs to be played on April 17/18 *Second legs to be played on April 24/25
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quater Final 1st leg results
APOEL Nicosia 0-3 Real Madrid
Marseille 0-2 Bayern Munich
Benfica 0-1 Chelsea
AC Milan 0-0 Barcelona
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quater Final 2nd leg results
APOEL Nicosia 2-5 Real Madrid
Bayern Munich 2-0 Marseille
Chelsea 2-1 Benfica
Barcelona 3-1 AC Milan
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quater Final Over all Results
APOEL Nicosia 2-8 Real Madrid
Marseille 0-4 Bayern Munich
Benfica 1-3 Chelsea
Barcelona 3-1 AC Milan
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Semi Final 1st leg results
Bayern Munich 2-1 Real Madrid
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Semi Final 1st leg results
Chelsea 1-0 Barcelona
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Semi Final 2nd leg results
Barcelona 2-2 Chelsea
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Semi Final 2nd leg results
Real Madrid 2-1 Bayern Munich
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Semi Final Over all Results
Barcelona 2-3 Chelsea Bayern Munich (3)3-3 (1) Real Madrid < decided on pens
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Champions League 2011/12 Final
Chelsea vs Bayern Munich
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Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:20 pm
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Welcome to the SRF Champions League thread, and as this years competition moves off into the group stages here are said groups from today's draw.
POT 1: MANCHESTER UNITED, Barcelona, CHELSEA, Bayern Munich, ARSENAL, Real Madrid, Porto and Inter Milan POT 2: AC Milan, Lyon, Shakthar Donetsk, Valencia, Benfica, Villarreal, CSKA Moscow and Marseille POT 3: Zenit St Petersburg, Ajax, Leverkusen, Olympiakos, Lille, Basle, BATE Borisov and MANCHESTER CITY POT 4: Borussia Dortmund, Napoli, Dinamo Zagreb, APOEL Nicosia, Genk, Viktoria Plzen, Otelul Galati and Trabzonspor
Group A FC Bayern München (GER) Villarreal CF (ESP) Manchester City FC (ENG) SSC Napoli (ITA
Group B FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) LOSC Lille Métropole (FRA) Trabzonspor AŞ (TUR)
Group C Manchester United FC (ENG) SL Benfica (POR) FC Basel 1893 (SUI) FC Oţelul Galaţi (ROU)
Group D Real Madrid CF (ESP) Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) AFC Ajax (NED) GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) Group E Chelsea FC (ENG) Valencia CF (ESP) Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) KRC Genk (BEL)
Group F Arsenal FC (ENG) Olympique de Marseille (FRA) Olympiacos FC (GRE) Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Group G FC Porto (POR) FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) FC Zenit St Petersburg (RUS) APOEL FC (CYP)
Group H FC Barcelona (ESP) AC Milan (ITA) FC BATE Borisov (BLR) FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
The first round of fixtures will be played on September 13/14.
Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:36 pm
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I find it rather silly how they made the Champions League work. It should be one CHAMPION, as the name says, from every country that gets to participate. Also, a Dutch team gets 1/4th of the money of a German team for example, if they get to participate. Purely because of TV rights. Small countries are basically screwed with this system xD
Also, in the Netherlands a football team cannot have a huge amount of debt, Where say .. a Manchester United has like 1,6 billion euros? of debt and Real Madrid just has the gov buy a few parking spaces for 500 million euros each.
Most matches are fun to watch still, so i guess for a neutral watcher it's a good thing.
Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:47 am
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LillDev!l wrote:
I find it rather silly how they made the Champions League work. It should be one CHAMPION, as the name says, from every country that gets to participate. Also, a Dutch team gets 1/4th of the money of a German team for example, if they get to participate. Purely because of TV rights. Small countries are basically screwed with this system xD
Also, in the Netherlands a football team cannot have a huge amount of debt, Where say .. a Manchester United has like 1,6 billion euros? of debt and Real Madrid just has the gov buy a few parking spaces for 500 million euros each.
Most matches are fun to watch still, so i guess for a neutral watcher it's a good thing.
Where to begin.... lol
Check your football history and you will see that the Champions League/European Cup did infact only be for the winners of each league instead of the top 4 teams for a country. And was changed for various reasons.
TV revenue money has NOTHING to do with UEFA, its all out fault that teams from smaller footballing nations get "screwed" because the majority of football audiences (us) what to see the best teams play against each other...rather then small teams with players we havent heard of. As such matches as such Barca vs AC Milan in the group stage will be a big draw for audiences and as such these two clubs will recieve a nice share of the money. where as a match between a Dutch and a Turkish team wont. Likewise the further a team gets within the champions league the more money it gets.
And with the new UEFA finacial rules in place no team within European competition, either the Europa League or the Champions League can we spending more then it makes...i.e clubs have to be show to be in a healthy finacial situation. Man Utd are currently 400m in debt... i honestly dont know where the hell you got a figure like 1.6billion from?!?! lol..and given their current sponsorship deals and future plans to float the club in asia could see their debt cut from 400m down to 200m or even 100m by the end of the next two finacial years. These teams all have plans and as such dont seem to be breaking any of the new rules...now am not saying what their doing is above board or even legal (not that i would know either way anyway).
Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:07 am
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They've done well to lower their debt then ^^ I don't follow their financial position or anything, i know it used to be 1,2 billion and rising fast a few years ago. I did know that it used to be for winners of every league, which is exactly the reason why i brought it up even. In some ways i simply liked that system better, i do indeed understand however that not many neutral viewers feel like seeing two 'no name' league winners go up against each other, rather than Barcelona v AC Milan or something similar.
Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:26 pm
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Group A and Group E = some nice matches
@LilDevil Do you really think that leagues like say, the one in Holland deserve the same amount of spots as leagues in England and Germany (which are much better) Man U. it self isnt in debt, its the owners that have the debt (but obviously they fck up United as they will use its revenues to pay the debt) Real madrid, now, would be considered in debt since they spent beyond their means or w/e.
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Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:10 pm
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UnbeatableDevil wrote:
Group A and Group E = some nice matches
@LilDevil Do you really think that leagues like say, the one in Holland deserve the same amount of spots as leagues in England and Germany (which are much better) Man U. it self isnt in debt, its the owners that have the debt (but obviously they fck up United as they will use its revenues to pay the debt) Real madrid, now, would be considered in debt since they spent beyond their means or w/e.
The 'little' leagues have become training leagues for the 'bigger' leagues because of the ridiculous spending culture big clubs have and are allowed to have, which is not possible in the Netherlands by law. We have a 'little' league, because good players will simply be bought at relatively ridiculous prices our clubs can't refuse, which is a shame. If for example Ajax would have a debt of 30 million that would be considered huge, Whereas a 600 million debt to Real Madrid would be of no significance. This however does not mean that Ajax is simply a lesser club training wise or even in regards to the prices they've won. The only English club to have more champions leagues won than Ajax would be Liverpool (In all around prices won Ajax is no. 5 in the world). The fact that the Netherlands is ranked first in the world on the FIFA ranking while we have a fairly low quality league shows that i guess, for Dutch people who like football that's a shame, as there are indeed many leagues that are more fun to watch than our own league.
Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:31 pm
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What's the big deal about Dutch anyways? They aren't so good anyway? maybe only when you fuse them and put Marwijk as trainer then they have chance to compete to other teams in CL
Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:35 pm
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LillDev!l wrote:
The 'little' leagues have become training leagues for the 'bigger' leagues because of the ridiculous spending culture big clubs have and are allowed to have, which is not possible in the Netherlands by law. We have a 'little' league, because good players will simply be bought at relatively ridiculous prices our clubs can't refuse, which is a shame. If for example Ajax would have a debt of 30 million that would be considered huge, Whereas a 600 million debt to Real Madrid would be of no significance. This however does not mean that Ajax is simply a lesser club training wise or even in regards to the prices they've won. The only English club to have more champions leagues won than Ajax would be Liverpool (In all around prices won Ajax is no. 5 in the world). The fact that the Netherlands is ranked first in the world on the FIFA ranking while we have a fairly low quality league shows that i guess, for Dutch people who like football that's a shame, as there are indeed many leagues that are more fun to watch than our own league.
Well if Dutch teams do better in the CL they would get more spots, its simple. If every team had 1 spot, Ajax would most likely always represent Dutch's league, while teams like Chelsea and Real madrid wouldnt be going to the CL. And what do you think about teams from say, serbia, Dont they deserve one spot atleast as well? And Albania, Greece, etc.
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Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:44 am
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Ducth teams are amazing...Holland produces some of the best young players in the world and their clubs have a deep and extremly rich history not only within European competions but also at a international level when Holland introduced the world to "Total Football".
Also champions league postions are given out based on how teams from a country do within Europe....so given how Man Utd have reached 3 finals in 4 years, and within the last 5 season english clubs have made it to at least the semi finals then it means as a whole England are given more points then say teams from Bulgaria who struggle just to make it through the qualification matches.
And as for Holland, Well given how its been a while since a Dutch team as done exceptionally well consently within the competions they (the Holland FA) have only been given 2 Champions League postions....and if you think its because they are from a "small" country then think again.
Because anyone watching the draw would of noticed that dispite winning Serie A, AC Milan were only second seeded teams..why you ask? that a league winning team isnt a first seed? Well because in recent years AC Milan have been awful within Europe and on the whole apart form Inter Milan winning a few years back in Spain Italian teams have been bad in the EL and CL...in fact if this tread of poor European showings continues then by next year Germany could replace Italy as the 3rd ranked footballing nation within Europe and take the Italians 4 CL spots, forcing them back down to 3 spots.
Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:26 pm
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About the debt thing of FC´s, it is rediculous that clubs like Real Madrid and Man Utd. are allowed to have debts of hundreds of millions. While my own FC, MVV was almost history thanks to a debt of 1.6 million euros. 109 years of football history, and almost gone thanks to a ´silly´ debt of 1.6 million.
Strict actions should be taken against clubs with high debts, in Holland if a club doesn´t get its financial situation fixed in 3 years, its football license is taken away and is not allowed to participate in the league anymore. The commercialization of modern football is taking drastic forms and it´s changing football rapidly.
I´ll just leave this here, it´s not about Fulham FC itself, but about the message of the video.
- Against modern football.
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Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 25/08/11: Group Draw
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:42 pm
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Man Utd's debt wasnt their own doing, it was caused by the dumbass Glazers getting loans to buy the club and then putting the debt on Man utd . Same for Liverpool. If anything they should make it harder for people to just take loans and buy clubs, fcking up the club on the way.
Now Real madrid's and Barcelona's debt was their own fault, but for some reason Real Madrid's debt never catches up to them (mostly because of bribing etc in Madrid..)
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Post subject: Re: Champion League 2011/2012 - 13/09/11: Group Results
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:17 am
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Here are the results for tonights games (14/09/11)
Champions League - Group A: Villarreal CF 0-2 FC Bayern München Manchester City 1-1 Napoli
Champions League - Group B: FC Internazionale 0-1 Trabzonspor Lille Métropole 2-2 CSKA Moskva
Champions League - Group C: SL Benfica 1-1 Manchester United FC Basel 2-1 Oţelul Galaţi
Champions League - Group D: Olympique Lyon 0-0 AFC Ajax Dinamo Zagreb 0-1 Real Madrid CF
Current Tables
Key: P = Played W = Wins D = Draws L = Losses PTS = Points
UEFA Champions League : Group A Table -----------------------P--W---D--L--PTS 1 FC Bayern-------1---1---0--0--3 2 Manchester City-1---0---1--0--1 3 Napoli-------------1---0---1--0--1 4 Villarreal CF------1---0---0--1--0
UEFA Champions League : Group B Table -----------------------P--W---D--L--PTS 1 Trabzonspor ----1---1---0--0--3 2 LOSC Lille-------1---0---1--0--1 3 CSKA Moskva --1---0---1--0--1 4 FC Inter---------1---0---0--1--0
UEFA Champions League : Group C Table --------------------------P--W---D--L--PTS 1 FC Basel -----------1---1---0--0--3 2 Manchester Utd---1---0---1--0--1 3 SL Benfica----------1---0---1--0--1 4 Oţelul Galaţi--------1---0---0--1--0
UEFA Champions League : Group D Table -------------------------P--W---D--L--PTS 1 Real Madrid CF ---1---1---0--0--3 2 AFC Ajax -----------1---0---1--0--1 3 Olympique Lyon---1---0---1--0--1 4 Dinamo Zagreb----1---0---0--1--0
UEFA Champions League : Group E Table -----------------------P--W---D--L--PTS 1 Chelsea----------1---1---0--0--3 2 KRC Genk--------1---0---1--0--1 3 Valencia CF------1---0---1--0--1 4 Bayer Lever------1---0---0--1--0
UEFA Champions League : Group F Table -----------------------P--W---D--L--PTS 1 Marseille---------1---1---0--0--3 2 Arsenal-----------1---0---1--0--1 3 Dortmund--------1---0---1--0--1 4 Olympiacos-------1---0---0--1--0
UEFA Champions League : Group G Table -----------------------P--W---D--L--PTS 1 APOEL FC--------1---1---0--0--3 2 Porto-------------1---1---0--0--3 3 Shakhtar--------1---0---0--1--0 4 Zenit-------------1---0---0--1--0
UEFA Champions League : Group H Table -----------------------P--W---D--L--PTS 1 AC Milan----------1---0---1--0--1 2 FC Barcelona----1---0---1--0--1 3 BATE--------------1---0---1--0--1 4 Viktoria Plzeň---1---0---1--0--1
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. Same for Liverpool. If anything they should make it harder for people to just take loans and buy clubs, fcking up the club on the way.
