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 Post subject: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:17 am 
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A one big Failure, since i want to grind on floor B3 / B4 takes me almost an half hour to get there... with my wizzy and finally when i get there i get 1 shotted by envy or other giant trolls... sometimes even before i can reach my destination... ( i can't take on lvl 101 mobs)
COULDN'T JOYMAX just make some teleport directly to B3 B4? :palm:

So pissed off right now :x

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:29 am 
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A one big Failure, since i want to grind on floor B3 / B4 takes me almost an half hour to get there... with my wizzy and finally when i get there i get 1 shotted by envy or other giant trolls... sometimes even before i can reach my destination... ( i can't take on lvl 101 mobs)
COULDN'T JOYMAX just make some teleport directly to B3 B4? :palm:

So pissed off right now :x

Wouldn't that be too logical?

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:50 am 
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Wouldn't that be too logical?

Please explain?

I don't see the harm if they did it with some kind of lvl gap? cause now people have to walk like 15min, OR of course (how predictable) use the reverse scroll :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:00 pm 
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Wouldn't that be too logical?

Please explain?

I don't see the harm if they did it with some kind of lvl gap? cause now people have to walk like 15min, OR of course (how predictable) use the reverse scroll :D

More reverses -> more money

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:25 pm 
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Stop running into the envy's and Giants ? Your vieuw range is way bigger then there agro range you should see them long before they agro on you.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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Stop running into the envy's Giants ? Your vieuw range is way bigger then there agro range you should see them long before they agro on you.


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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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it made 10D items more rare, and more expensive, + a place that never gets crowded, also more profit for them as almost everyone going to medusa use a reverse.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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Stop running into the envy's Giants ? Your vieuw range is way bigger then there agro range you should see them long before they agro on you.

Envies are Champions not Giants. And if your view range is at 5 they will attack you as soon as you get them in sight.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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yeah the envies are really annoying, they see you from like 20x the distance of regular mobs.

I was grinding at JG cave yesterday, its just :palm:

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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Stop running into the envy's Giants ? Your vieuw range is way bigger then there agro range you should see them long before they agro on you.

Envies are Champions not Giants. And if your view range is at 5 they will attack you as soon as you get them in sight.



Suposed to say and giants my bad. And i do see envy's before they attack me and i can avoid them quite easly

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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Wouldn't that be too logical?

Please explain?

I don't see the harm if they did it with some kind of lvl gap? cause now people have to walk like 15min, OR of course (how predictable) use the reverse scroll :D

'twas sarcasm my friend.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:39 am 
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A one big Failure, since i want to grind on floor B3 / B4 takes me almost an half hour to get there... with my wizzy and finally when i get there i get 1 shotted by envy or other giant trolls... sometimes even before i can reach my destination
That sounds so... harsh. Well, Isn't it a pity that you can't be invisible for some minutes? lulz

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:35 am 
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A one big Failure, since i want to grind on floor B3 / B4 takes me almost an half hour to get there... with my wizzy and finally when i get there i get 1 shotted by envy or other giant trolls... sometimes even before i can reach my destination
That sounds so... harsh. Well, Isn't it a pity that you can't be invisible for some minutes? lulz

With the cooldown time? hehe tried that already :)

thanks for tips though :D but imma out of options lol..

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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asusi wrote:
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A one big Failure, since i want to grind on floor B3 / B4 takes me almost an half hour to get there... with my wizzy and finally when i get there i get 1 shotted by envy or other giant trolls... sometimes even before i can reach my destination
That sounds so... harsh. Well, Isn't it a pity that you can't be invisible for some minutes? lulz

With the cooldown time? hehe tried that already :)

thanks for tips though :D but imma out of options lol..

Well, you can always level up the "normal" invisible (even level 1 would do) instead of the crystal one, you will only have 10 sec. cooldown, it only costs 144 sp for level 1 invisible if you only want it for avoiding mobs.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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_Dutchy_ wrote:
Suposed to say and giants my bad. And i do see envy's before they attack me and i can avoid them quite easly

I when i move like 3 metres closer to them after seeing them, they'll attack. While running to your spot that 3 metres goes too fast to react. And making small steps to your spot to avoid Envies is shit. :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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I think about this every time I make the dreadful walk to B3 :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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so you're a wiz and can't avoid envies?

oh, nvm, I see someone else has recommended invisibility. When I used to go to Jangan cave I'd do the same thing, just run through b2 as they didn't hurt me that bad, and b3 I'd either invis or keep myself in cleric mode.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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so you're a wiz and can't avoid envies?

oh, nvm, I see someone else has recommended invisibility. When I used to go to Jangan cave I'd do the same thing, just run through b2 as they didn't hurt me that bad, and b3 I'd either invis or keep myself in cleric mode.

im bard :giveup: but thanks :) already done with this Jangan Cave %&*!@$!!

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:19 pm 
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Ha, reminds me on Azteca, when we'd just afk trace Corrupt and make him do all the running through b3 and b4.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:00 pm 
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Ha, reminds me on Azteca, when we'd just afk trace Corrupt and make him do all the running through b3 and b4.

Stupid caves.

Typical you, Tasdik. Lazy bow :roll:

But yeah, I completely agree that the B3 and B4 are too large. Not to mention B2. But yeah, as already suggested, Joymax makes more money this way around.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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I always get lost in B2 actually, i am not too good at following those teleport arrows :o

A direct teleport to B3 and B4 would be nice but we are talking about joymax so that's unlikely especially that it isn't 100 cap anymore.

You know that you can go to Alexandria at level 90, right?
Could be better if you have a good party and dislike to travel all the way.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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I had a hard time figuring out the B2 cave system as well. However, after playing some weeks at EliteSRO I kinda figured it out. It's actually not that hard when you first get used to it.
It's basically the same as with the DW cave. If it's your first time there, you will find it very hard to navigate around the different levels.

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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Ha, reminds me on Azteca, when we'd just afk trace Corrupt and make him do all the running through b3 and b4.

Stupid caves.

Typical you, Tasdik. Lazy bow :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: [Whine Thread] Jangan Cave
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im bard :giveup: but thanks :) already done with this Jangan Cave %&*!@$!!

Don't bards have a skill that reduces agro? Noise or something like that?


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im bard :giveup: but thanks :) already done with this Jangan Cave %&*!@$!!

Don't bards have a skill that reduces agro? Noise or something like that?

It removes aggro completely. But Envies are Champions and Noise doesn't work for them.

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Ah ok, didn't know that. Thanks.
Maybe I should try a bard someday.


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