KONY 2012

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

Avalanche wrote:

The amount of stupidity in this forum is too damn high.

You don't have to care about their "movement", the point of the video was to spread the word about Kony, and it did that very effectively. You don't need to vandalize the streets and protest like a twat, you just need to show your support to keep the small amount of troops in Africa to help the local military catch Kony.

And for all you people saying "blah blah there will always be another derp derp", if this campaign is successful, it is a message to all others that if the people of the world really stand together, they can actually make a difference and stop these war criminals.

but bro, I want to look smart and disagree with all the rest. cost too much herp derp derp. not effective herp derp derp. stupid movement herp derp derp.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:10 pm

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01 ... awareness/

Even though some parts of their message are true, they're taking the wrong actions. - Heroo

i guess a movement is only retarded when it's blocking your traffic huh Heroo

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

bro, there only can come good things out of this projects. atleast people now know of this Kony and even though he may not be as powerful as he used to be, people are learning about child soldiers and ruthless african warlords. people can start discussions about it now and maybe it will force politics to do something too. far too long have we been silent while Africa is getting raped. if there is one continent this world has fcked, it is Africa. nearly all the problems Africa is facing now are a direct result of imperialism and colonism. Kony isn't the only one you know.

you can disagree with all their methods and all the actions they took, but still the positive effects outweigh any wrong decissions they made. this has reached the Dutch news and I even saw stalls in sro-r with KONY 2012 lol.

atleast someone is trying to do something, because most of us just do nothing and can't wait to critize someone who's actually doing something. it seems like a natural thing that we first look for the bad things rather then the good things.

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

Avalanche wrote:

The amount of stupidity in this forum is too damn high.

Not just on SRF. The amount of people on reddit and other sites alike that claim it's not a real issue are fucking idiots. Abducting children and forcing them to kill/rape/mutilate people including their own parents isn't a big enough problem to say "Let's kill this Mother Fucker" !?

And about the Invisible Children being a scam crap. Where does all the info keep coming from on that? Because every other place I read it, It's way different.. By values of millions of dollars in regards to the money they are getting/keeping/using for production.. Sources just keep back linking to each other. I personally don't believe it's a scam. I they didn't ask for donations, they wouldn't have even been accused of it.

Ownage · **Joined:** Jul 2009 **Posts:** 1173 **Location:** SwSro!

CrimsonNuker wrote:

Ownage wrote:

Here are some of the expenses from their financial report.
Expense Total
Film Costs $357,000
Production Costs $851,000
Travel $1,000,000 <--I think they bring Uganda kids to the US? Not sure.
Rent $398,000
Professional Services $245,000 <----This is the lobbyist payment, I think.
Compensation $1,700,000 <---They pay themselves (the main 3 guys) about $90k a year for 55 hours of work per week.

Direct Services $2,810,000 <---This is how much is getting through to the Uganda kids.

The total expenses is about $8,800,000.

Source?

http://www.invisiblechildren.com/financials

Click 2011 Financial Statement for expenses (Page 7). You can see their salaries under the 2011 990 form.

I don't think their message is stupid, but they ask for donations but spend less than 30% of their total revenue on "Direct Services" to the kids in Uganda. There is also $5million that is unaccountable for.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Avalanche wrote:

they can actually make a difference and stop these war criminals.

Sadly, there will always be criminals

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Fiction · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:23 am

Damn! I wish college was this easy. Each class is just a 30 minute video and suddenly you're an expert on the entire subject!! Oh wait.. There is a reason why that's not how it works??? Because it wouldn't make you an expert on any subject, unless the class is about how to make me a samich!

So before you lose any sleep over the subject of dying kids in Africa or the price of tea in China, you should probably ask yourself, "Do I actually know anything about Africa other than they have zebras, blood diamonds, and invisible kids?" If you're all the sudden up in arms about something that happened a decade ago, chances are you're not an expert on African politics or their way of life.

Just go read a wiki article and keep screaming for more blood, don't forget to somehow blame white people and religion for the problem. We'll pick up where we left off next week with another subject for you to master.

CrimsonNuker · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 13791 **Location:**

.AWAKE. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 2070 **Location:**

CrimsonNuker · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 13791 **Location:**

.AWAKE. wrote:

Spoiler!

Avalanche · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 3606 **Location:**

.AWAKE. wrote:

Spoiler!

That was the dumbest Farking post I have ever seen in my life. I love how there is so much conjecture as to the validity of invisible children, but any ass hat who makes a comic discerning against the movement is 100% correct.

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

.AWAKE. wrote:

Spoiler!

WHAT'S THIS? OBAMA IS BEHIND THE KONI MOVEMENT?

MrTwilliger · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 1374 **Location:** Hiding

Also

Ugandan journalist wrote:

...The campaign was good but more for the benefit of the Western world... I think for Americans and Australians there needs to be drama and flair. This is how you get things noticed. It is not on the front page of our papers because it is not news. When the violence stops, that is news.

Mirosuke · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:27 am

somehow 'koni' sounds cute lol

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

.AWAKE. wrote:

Spoiler!

Not exactly related to the movement, but it's still good.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

This movement isn't only about creating awareness. It's challenging our indifference towards crimes we're far removed from. I cant see that being a bad thing. I am for whatever method that will save lives...even if it is the "self righteous over night hipster" method...I'm sure the children wont be complaining...I don't understand why some people on here are either complaining or making fun...I guess it's easy when death isn't looming over your own heads...

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:45 am

Ignoring the fact that Africa has been shit for awhile now and no one here gave two fucks before...

Ignoring that the movement wants to send millions of dollars to an untrustworthy organization that has no accountability...

Ignoring that arming the other side will cause them to fight Kony's group which is full of, you guessed it, child soldiers. This means that you're arming a group to KILL the group that you're supposed to be wanting trying to save which will inevitably result in the deaths of thousands of children...

Ignoring that arming and training one distant unaccountable group to fight another slightly worse group has backfired several times before (See: Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, Khmer Rouge, Khmer Bleu, Saddam Hussein, Guatemalan Death Squads, El Salvador Death Squads, etc) Please note that when i say backfire i don't mean like "The car my dad bought me for my birthday backfired, thank god he pays my insurance" I mean it normally results in dictators, terrorist or just a lot of innocent civilians getting killed thanks to a power struggle brought about by giving guns to strangers...

Ignoring that as far as African warlords are concerned Kony isn't even that big of a problem right now. Something anyone who knows anything about the state of the continent or even the general region would know...

Ignoring all of that i just want you to shut the hell up on the grounds that you're an ignorant, self-righteous, sheep who will do anything a lot of people agree with even if you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I want you to go back to whatever house and family you have and just for the love of god stop pretending like you care about this because you don't.

You really really don't and hearing you and others whine about it is just rubbing salt in the wounds of all the shitty problems Africa has/is/and will face while you continue to sit at your computer, say "i raised awareness

", and pat yourself on the back GGafricasolved.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

All this coming from someone who probably never cared much as well. Kettle calling the pot black. So many like you out there who educate yourself about these things but that's where it ends. The ignorant blindly looking for solutions while the educated sit back and criticize. I haven't seen you making any post about problems in Africa and how it can be helped but as soon as a bunch of ignorant hipsters try something you get all fired up. I might be a sheep at the moment but so are you....a sheep to arrogance and possible prejudice.

Fury · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1596 **Location:**

Did any of you do background research or have any prior knowledge before watching such a biased video? Was it not known to you that the LRA has not been in Uganda for 6 years - or that their organization is collapsing? Or that the footage was filmed in 2003? Or that the current (US backed) Ugandan president Yoweri Museveni also used children in his militia when commanding the NRA in the Luwero War.. Its so untimely its like me posting a video about Hurricane Katrina now and asking for immediate action and that happened 7 years ago.. Ridiculous. And only because it was presented in such hollywood fashion did any of you take note.

How many americans cared when 800,000 people were butchered in the Rwandan Genocide? But suddenly for some self-righteous reason you now support interventionism in central Africa due to this video?
Alright - so your proposing to depose a slipping Warlord through combat so he can be indicted for crimes to humanity? his soldiers are children, so by killing them.. your saving them.. how ironic.
Not to mention that all the 3 founders of the organization, 'invisible children' are paid 85k-100k - hmm.. nice altruistic motives... The only thing this film demonstrates is how to mobilize the uneducated youth of today.

Ownage · **Joined:** Jul 2009 **Posts:** 1173 **Location:** SwSro!

Fury wrote:

Did any of you do background research or have any prior knowledge before watching such a biased video? Was it not known to you that the LRA has not been in Uganda for 6 years - or that their organization is collapsing? Or that the footage was filmed in 2003? Or that the current (US backed) Ugandan president Yoweri Museveni also used children in his militia when commanding the NRA in the Luwero War.. Its so untimely its like me posting a video about Hurricane Katrina now and asking for immediate action and that happened 7 years ago.. Ridiculous. And only because it was presented in such hollywood fashion did any of you take note.

How many americans cared when 800,000 people were butchered in the Rwandan Genocide? But suddenly for some self-righteous reason you now support interventionism in central Africa due to this video?
Alright - so your proposing to depose a slipping Warlord through combat so he can be indicted for crimes to humanity? his soldiers are children, so by killing them.. your saving them.. how ironic.
Not to mention that all the 3 founders of the organization, 'invisible children' are paid 85k-100k - hmm.. nice altruistic motives... The only thing this film demonstrates is how to mobilize the uneducated youth of today.

I agree with everything except the last part. They pay themselves 90k for 55 hour work weeks. That seems fairly reasonable considering the fact that they have been working on this project for a very long time.

The LRA will collapse soon anyways. It still wreaks havoc in the Congo, but they are down to hundreds of soldiers, rather than the thousands that they had before.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

I'll Just leave this here

Quote:

The organization behind Kony 2012 — Invisible Children Inc. — is an extremely shady nonprofit that has been called ”misleading,” “naive,” and “dangerous” by a Yale political science professor, and has been accused by Foreign Affairs of “manipulat[ing] facts for strategic purposes.” They have also been criticized by the Better Business Bureau for refusing to provide information necessary to determine if IC meets the Bureau’s standards.

Additionally, IC has a low two-star rating in accountability from Charity Navigator because they won’t let their financials be independently audited. That’s not a good thing. In fact, it’s a very bad thing, and should make you immediately pause and reflect on where the money you’re sending them is going.

By IC’s own admission, only 31% of all the funds they receive go toward actually helping anyone [pdf]. The rest go to line the pockets of the three people in charge of the organization, to pay for their travel expenses (over $1 million in the last year alone) and to fund their filmmaking business (also over a million) — which is quite an effective way to make more money, as clearly illustrated by the fact that so many can’t seem to stop forwarding their well-engineered emotional blackmail to everyone they’ve ever known.
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Skyve · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 7328 **Location:** Canada

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:21 pm

BuDo wrote:

All this coming from someone who probably never cared much as well. Kettle calling the pot black. So many like you out there who educate yourself about these things but that's where it ends. The ignorant blindly looking for solutions while the educated sit back and criticize. I haven't seen you making any post about problems in Africa and how it can be helped but as soon as a bunch of ignorant hipsters try something you get all fired up. I might be a sheep at the moment but so are you....a sheep to arrogance and possible prejudice.

Kettle calling the pot African-American*

I've said more than enough of Africa's problems, their causes, and possible solutions on this forum. Been here since 07' so i know the people on this forum and just how narrow minded and ignorant they can be. Half the people here think Africa is just a funny word for AIDS and the other half could probably name 10 countries at best and then make jokes about bombing them.

It's not arrogance or prejudice that makes me want to punch you really hard in the face, it's fact that you're such an idiot that you still have the gall to support this movement and defend your support of this movement knowing full well, because i just explained it, the contradictory and ill-thought out nature of this entire scheme.

Those hipsters are NOT trying to do something productive. They are morons!

They are not looking for solutions. They are morons!

You're trying to defend a plan that has always created dictators and terrorist under the guise that you're raising awareness. And instead of taking a step back and thinking about it you STILL see some type of positive angle from this blind sheepish warpath these Kony 12' people are attempting to bring. And if this were to succeed after the bodies of thousands of children were piled high and a rogue uncontrollable organization now has access to a ton of new weapons and training YOU are not going to give a shit. You're going to open the paper, go "oh thats so sad" and then go off and play in your sandbox. That's why you and the rest of these Kony people are dicks.

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

^

Welcome to my world bro. I have been hearing all kinds of bullsh1t about the Middle-East and the Islam the past 5 and a half years I've been on this forum lol. Why do you think I hate 90% of this forum, trollol.

cpinney · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:48 pm

Nothing to see here

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

^

lol

gifs FTW.

Crowley · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:49 pm

Xemnas you are my new hero.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

XemnasXD wrote:

BuDo wrote:

All this coming from someone who probably never cared much as well. Kettle calling the pot black. So many like you out there who educate yourself about these things but that's where it ends. The ignorant blindly looking for solutions while the educated sit back and criticize. I haven't seen you making any post about problems in Africa and how it can be helped but as soon as a bunch of ignorant hipsters try something you get all fired up. I might be a sheep at the moment but so are you....a sheep to arrogance and possible prejudice.

Kettle calling the pot African-American*

I've said more than enough of Africa's problems, their causes, and possible solutions on this forum. Been here since 07' so i know the people on this forum and just how narrow minded and ignorant they can be. Half the people here think Africa is just a funny word for AIDS and the other half could probably name 10 countries at best and then make jokes about bombing them.

It's not arrogance or prejudice that makes me want to punch you really hard in the face, it's fact that you're such an idiot that you still have the gall to support this movement and defend your support of this movement knowing full well, because i just explained it, the contradictory and ill-thought out nature of this entire scheme.

Those hipsters are NOT trying to do something productive. They are morons!

They are not looking for solutions. They are morons!

You're trying to defend a plan that has always created dictators and terrorist under the guise that you're raising awareness. And instead of taking a step back and thinking about it you STILL see some type of positive angle from this blind sheepish warpath these Kony 12' people are attempting to bring. And if this were to succeed after the bodies of thousands of children were piled high and a rogue uncontrollable organization now has access to a ton of new weapons and training YOU are not going to give a shit. You're going to open the paper, go "oh thats so sad" and then go off and play in your sandbox. That's why you and the rest of these Kony people are dicks.

Again kettle calling the pot black. I have yet to hear about what you've done...Action speak louder than the words you place here on the forums from your cozy chair in front of your PC screen. You've ironically raised awareness about topics on Africa and possible solutions on this forum since 07 and then kick back and dust your hands off like the "What white people like" link you posted here earlier. It easy to criticize from your beloved sidelines and "Talk" about how others are wrong and stupid without getting out there yourself and setting an example for what is the best way to handle these things....

No point in arguing with your hypocritical ass any further especially you when you seem to be suffering from angry black man syndrome and assuming that every one on here with an opinion or view point that fits your perception of a "white" profile is actually white...You don't know who I am or where I'm from but I would love to meet you so you could try to live out your fantasy of punching me in the face..I'm out..

Fiction · **Posted:** Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:16 am

BuDo wrote:

Again kettle calling the pot black. I have yet to hear about what you've done...Action speak louder than the words you place here on the forums from your cozy chair in front of your PC screen. You've ironically raised awareness about topics on Africa and possible solutions on this forum since 07 and then kick back and dust your hands off like the "What white people like" link you posted here earlier. It easy to criticize from your beloved sidelines and "Talk" about how others are wrong and stupid without getting out there yourself and setting an example for what is the best way to handle these things....

No point in arguing with your hypocritical ass any further especially you when you seem to be suffering from angry black man syndrome and assuming that every one on here with an opinion or view point that fits your perception of a "white" profile is actually white...You don't know who I am or where I'm from but I would love to meet you so you could try to live out your fantasy of punching me in the face..I'm out..

I don't know who the hell is calling what black cause all I'm seeing is red. Why the hell does he have to do anything? Why do you think that you have to "fix" everything? How is it any of our place to get into other people's business. You guys and your hypocritical stance on invading a country.

There is no human moral code that says we have to go clear across the world and get ourselves involved in a situation which we don't and probably will not ever understand. I know a lot of "you people" think there is a solution to everything and if you kill enough people who kill other people, all will be right. Wrong. Let Africa take care of Africa, and lets keep our nose out of other people's shit, and start taking care of our own problems.

But hey, you're more than welcome to grab a gun-or waste your money in donations- and go get yourself killed over there. Don't let any of us stop you, but go F yourself if you want me or my brothers to get killed fighting over there so that you can sleep at night.

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