Israel and the Gaza

Mayumi · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:52 am

Nuke Them.

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:04 pm

BuDo wrote:

Honestly I think they should have an all out war that wipe out both sides...Just let the people from both sides who are against the senseless fighting move away first..so they may come back to rebuild after all the idiots slaughter each other...

130 targets ? the IAF must be working overtime, or is it ground fire aswell ? or is the IDF using m109's and m-270's to pound targets aswell ?

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

This has been brewing for years and years...

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

From what i understand so far its only Air Strikes but i could be wrong.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

cbkilla wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Honestly I think they should have an all out war that wipe out both sides...Just let the people from both sides who are against the senseless fighting move away first..so they may come back to rebuild after all the idiots slaughter each other...

Right cause one genocide for the jews wasnt enough? :palm:

It's not genocide if only those take part who want to.

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

Sanktum wrote:

cbkilla wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Honestly I think they should have an all out war that wipe out both sides...Just let the people from both sides who are against the senseless fighting move away first..so they may come back to rebuild after all the idiots slaughter each other...

Right cause one genocide for the jews wasnt enough? :palm:

It's not genocide if only those take part who want to.

A genocide is not determined whether or not both sides wanted to fight or not. A genocide is just a mass killing of people.

Quote:

genocide (ˈdʒɛnəʊˌsaɪd)

— n
the policy of deliberately killing a nationality or ethnic group

[C20: from geno-, from Greek genos race + -cide ]

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omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

So then every battle in history is a genocide?

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

Every battle in history doesnt "wipe out both sides".

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

That's not what you mentioned before.

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

Thats what Budo said...lol

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:04 pm

75,000 Reservists been called up now i have a feeling this is gonna get a whole lot bigger and not only about Gaza considering the united states has deployed ALLOT of patriot missle's in isreal. Maybe they will clear out gaza and then go straight for iran.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

cbkilla wrote:

Thats what Budo said...lol

Mass killings of people who are hell bent on killing each other? hells yes....For the people from BOTH sides who dont want war? no... All the children and people who don't believe in killing another person over some self-rigthtous bullshit can preserve the culture in the aftermath.. Don't just take part of what I said to suit your view....It isn't genocide in my opinion as much as it is dumb mass suicide... If Jews and Palestinians(or anyone) want to kill themselves over stupid shit I am all for it...The quicker the better...

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

BuDo wrote:

Mass killings of people who are hell bent on killing each other? hells yes....For the people from BOTH sides who dont want war? no... All the children and people who don't believe in killing another person over some self-rigthtous bullshit can preserve the culture in the aftermath.. Don't just take part of what I said to suit your view....It isn't genocide in my opinion as much as it is dumb mass suicide... If Jews and Palestinians(or anyone) want to kill themselves over stupid shit I am all for it...The quicker the better...

Me too.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

BuDo wrote:

want to kill themselves over stupid shit I am all for it...The quicker the better..

Sure Well, As long as... they don't kill innocent civilians. There's no "justification" for that whatsoever.

Mayumi · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:23 am

Civilians knows whats going on, there have a choice to move away from conflict or take a chance and stay in that area, this is what you call "casualties of war".

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

Quote:

Israel tells foreign diplomats Gaza op to be expanded

In a message to world nations, Israel said the IDF is gearing towards significantly expanding its operation in the Gaza Strip, and has begun drafting tens of thousands of reserve troops ahead of a ground incursion.

Israeli officials have told foreign diplomats that the image of a bleeding baby who was injured in a rocket attack in Kiryat Malachi "says it all," adding that Hamas is hurting children on both sides and is using kids as human shields. The officials further stressed that the citizens of Israel are behind the operation. (Itamar Eichner)]

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Jimayumi wrote:

Civilians knows whats going on, there have a choice to move away from conflict

It's pretty easy to say that.

Mayumi · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:25 pm

*BlackFox wrote:

Jimayumi wrote:

Civilians knows whats going on, there have a choice to move away from conflict

It's pretty easy to say that.

"easy to say that" Nobody in there right mind would stay in that area while missiles are dropping around them,

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Jimayumi wrote:

"easy to say that" Nobody in there right mind would stay in that area while missiles are dropping around them,

What about Sick, older people? Well, they can't Just move out.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

*BlackFox wrote:

Jimayumi wrote:

"easy to say that" Nobody in there right mind would stay in that area while missiles are dropping around them,

What about Sick, older people? Well, they can't Just move out.

Do you believe that a government that declares an area a war zone would not inform it's people to relocate or provide means to help them relocate?...You think they would leave the very people they are fighting for in the hot zones without a care?...Even if they did there would be plenty of people who are against the war who'd be willing to help move the old and sick...Even the warlike minded individuals who want to fight would help out before they head off to their dumb battle..

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

BuDo wrote:

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Do you believe that a government that declares an area a war zone would not inform it's people to relocate or provide means to help them relocate?

Yep, thats exactly what hamas does.

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:52 pm

Quote:

Do you believe that a government that declares an area a war zone would not inform it's people to relocate or provide means to help them relocate?...You think they would leave the very people they are fighting for in the hot zones without a care?...Even if they did there would be plenty of people who are against the war who'd be willing to help move the old and sick...Even the warlike minded individuals who want to fight would help out before they head off to their dumb battle..

You have a very unrealistic vieuw of war my friend

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

It may seem unrealistic but the fact of the matter is people inherently don't want to die or have the people they care for die so those who don't care for this war and again...those who do will help themselves and their sick and old love ones move out of arms way....Yes in a first strike attack when no one has prepared themselves to pack up and leave there will be casualties but I am speaking of a situation where war is about to start so there is no point in staying in the hot zones.....I don't see anything unrealistic about that....

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

BuDo wrote:

It may seem unrealistic but the fact of the matter is people inherently don't want to die or have the people they care for die so those who don't care for this war and again..

You really dont know anything about Islamic extremists do you?

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

^

as worse as zionists.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:50 pm

cbkilla you can't defend either side in this. How many people are going to die before you realize that.

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:03 pm

XemnasXD wrote:

cbkilla you can't defend either side in this. How many people are going to die before you realize that.

I usally stand on the side that defends its population instead of using it as shields and there deaths as propaganda.

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

_Dutchy_ wrote:

I usally stand on the side that defends its population instead of using it as shields and there deaths as propaganda.

you do realize that what you are saying is infact propaganda, only from the other side.

i sometimes wonder if you had any education. vmbo kaderberoeps misschien? :sohappy:

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

Im not even going to bother arguing with you, its pointless. Anyways Hamas is now threatening to renew suicide bombers. Im debeating whether or not to go to work tomorrow >.<
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=292337

@herro the former PM of gaza even said that Hamas is putting the civilians in harms way on purpose.

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:19 pm

heroo wrote:

_Dutchy_ wrote:

I usally stand on the side that defends its population instead of using it as shields and there deaths as propaganda.

you do realize that what you are saying is infact propaganda, only from the other side.

i sometimes wonder if you had any education. vmbo kaderberoeps misschien? :sohappy:

i'm simply stating my opinion if it wanted to spread propaganda or influence poeple i would throw down allot more arguments to the table.

My education doesn't concern you but since your so intrested currently studying " Informatica " at the NHL

@CBKILLA you should go to work i'm sure the IDF has enough security measures in place stay safe man.

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