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MrH
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Post subject: Question about 2:1 INT HYBRID Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:55 pm |
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I sent a PM to SuicideGrl about this, but would like others opinions too.
My char is a level 53 2:1 INT Hybrid. I wear garments. My fire mastery is level 53, but my weapon mastery is only level 37. I thought before that if I left my fire mastery high it give me good magical attacks, and I would not need to worry about putting the SP into my weapon mastery level. My friend the other day told me it was very important to keep my fire and weapon masterys close as that will allow me to do higher magical attacks (such as a nuke). Is this true?
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sa0
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:01 pm |
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Your nukes are dependent on your INT, your equips,and your imbue, not weapon masteries. Theres a lot of nukers who dont even level their weapon skills past 30. 
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apollo
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:11 pm |
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imo i think you should level up your weapon to at least 60 and cap it there for the passive skill being that you ARE a hybrid... if you were full int i would just tell you not to even get weapon.. because im doin what you are doing.. 2:1 int hybrid (my new char)... and imma have 60 sword/70 lightning/70 fire/and 70 force (dont follow me on the force.. lol force is a waste.. im just getting it to be a support for my guild to ressurect and whatnot..) but i think you should go it this way... 70 on all 3 elemental forces and 60 on your weapon and your remaining sp levels throw on the rest on ur weapon or whatever else you like =P hope this helps
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sa0
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:11 pm |
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apollo wrote: imo i think you should level up your weapon to at least 60 and cap it there for the passive skill being that you ARE a hybrid... if you were full int i would just tell you not to even get weapon.. because im doin what you are doing.. 2:1 int hybrid (my new char)... and imma have 60 sword/70 lightning/70 fire/and 70 force (dont follow me on the force.. lol force is a waste.. im just getting it to be a support for my guild to ressurect and whatnot..) but i think you should go it this way... 70 on all 3 elemental forces and 60 on your weapon and your remaining sp levels throw on the rest on ur weapon or whatever else you like =P hope this helps
Umm..i think you have that backwards?
If you are a pure, id suggest getting the weapon skills up for the passives, because itll definitely save you a lot. Whether its the blocking passive or the HP passive. But since you are a hybrid its not needed as much. IMO, id get your weapon to lvl 40 and stop there for the passive. Then max fire, lightning, and ice and get those buffs. 
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apollo
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:38 am |
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lol or do what he does.. im retarded anyways =P
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MrH
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:08 am |
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lol, thanks guys.
I got alot of SP farming to do 
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imbackthx
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:59 am |
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rofl @ the previous responses b/c they are just bad
as hybrid int, you dont have the huge dmg of pure int and the tanking of pure strs, you have a little bit of both, therefore its important to level your bichon (i recommand hekusal as well, for the 1000 hp) because
1. you are hybrid, you need bichon skill because your dmg is mostly mag but with a bit of physical dmg
2. the knock down skills / stab skills will help you a lot on pvps and are life savers
3. passive shield block <-- reallly useful
Last edited by imbackthx on Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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sa0
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:17 am |
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imbackthx wrote: rofl @ the previous responses b/c they are just bad
as hybrid int, you dont have the raw dmg of pure int and the tanking of pure strs, you have a little bit of both, therefore its important to level your bichon (i recommand hekusal as well, for the 1000 hp) because 1. you are hybrid, you need bichon skill because your dmg is mostly mag but with a bit of physical dmg 2. the knock down skills / stab skills will help you a lot on pvps and are life savers 3. passive shield block <-- reallly useful
bad? lol
For your first argument, hes a nuker, Hybrid is just merely to have extra HP to be a better 1v1 nuker.
2. the KD wont nearly save his life as much as the shield passive. And he never specified whether he was s/s, or spear.
3. I agree with you on the shield block, but theres no point in the weap skills.
At lvl 90, id rather have 90 fire, ice, and lightning, with the massive buffs. and lvl 30 bicheon or heuksal for the passive. By then sure, id probably get weapon skills, but not yet. Save the SP for your nukes/buffs.
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imbackthx
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:55 am |
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sa0 wrote: imbackthx wrote: rofl @ the previous responses b/c they are just bad
as hybrid int, you dont have the raw dmg of pure int and the tanking of pure strs, you have a little bit of both, therefore its important to level your bichon (i recommand hekusal as well, for the 1000 hp) because 1. you are hybrid, you need bichon skill because your dmg is mostly mag but with a bit of physical dmg 2. the knock down skills / stab skills will help you a lot on pvps and are life savers 3. passive shield block <-- reallly useful bad? lol For your first argument, hes a nuker, Hybrid is just merely to have extra HP to be a better 1v1 nuker. 2. the KD wont nearly save his life as much as the shield passive. And he never specified whether he was s/s, or spear. 3. I agree with you on the shield block, but theres no point in the weap skills. At lvl 90, id rather have 90 fire, ice, and lightning, with the massive buffs. and lvl 30 bicheon or heuksal for the passive. By then sure, id probably get weapon skills, but not yet. Save the SP for your nukes/buffs.
LOL HORRIBLE
Please go watch some hybrid pvp videos
and sorry i didnt completly read his post, but i am right, if hes using spear he needs the sss, mars, etc, they are GOOD
if hes sword, he NEED knock down / smash or else he would be dead in minute of pvping pure strs
AND HYBRID MEANS : You add a bit of str and int
its not merely for MORE HP
you get more PHYSICAL DMG when you add str
Since your physical dmg and physical reinforcement is better than a PURE INT your WEAPON SKILLS such as KNOCK DOWN, SSS, MARS will have higher attack than PURE INTS, and its essciential to get them, espically the passive hp bonus.
sa0 tell me your level pls, o wait, its probably below lvl 30 right?
please never ever post your stupid posts EVER AGAIN
VIDEOS:
HYBRID INT SWORD:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3CgMQ8nRR44
http://youtube.com/watch?v=enn6wtaMb04
HYBRID INT SPEAR:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9NQ7Yy89ygo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SxTZ9zT6mOw
Yes, in some of the videos the hybrids lost to their opponents, and as you can see, hybrid int is not cookie cutter build but they still can kill pure strs
lets suppose in the first video, the hybrid sword didnt get knock down, what would she do? spam all three nukes?
do u know that glavie can take away more than 30% of your hp each hit? and its only a matter of time when they crit, and when they crit they do like 5-6k dmg and 50% of your hp is gone
which is exactly you need knock down, you knock him down, and deal damage to him while potting your hp back to live
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sa0
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:29 am |
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imbackthx wrote: sa0 wrote: imbackthx wrote: rofl @ the previous responses b/c they are just bad
as hybrid int, you dont have the raw dmg of pure int and the tanking of pure strs, you have a little bit of both, therefore its important to level your bichon (i recommand hekusal as well, for the 1000 hp) because 1. you are hybrid, you need bichon skill because your dmg is mostly mag but with a bit of physical dmg 2. the knock down skills / stab skills will help you a lot on pvps and are life savers 3. passive shield block <-- reallly useful bad? lol For your first argument, hes a nuker, Hybrid is just merely to have extra HP to be a better 1v1 nuker. 2. the KD wont nearly save his life as much as the shield passive. And he never specified whether he was s/s, or spear. 3. I agree with you on the shield block, but theres no point in the weap skills. At lvl 90, id rather have 90 fire, ice, and lightning, with the massive buffs. and lvl 30 bicheon or heuksal for the passive. By then sure, id probably get weapon skills, but not yet. Save the SP for your nukes/buffs. LOL HORRIBLE Please go watch some hybrid pvp videos and sorry i didnt completly read his post, but i am right, if hes using spear he needs the sss, mars, etc, they are GOOD if hes sword, he NEED knock down / smash or else he would be dead in minute of pvping pure strs AND HYBRID MEANS : You add a bit of str and int its not merely for MORE HP you get more PHYSICAL DMG when you add str Since your physical dmg and physical reinforcement is better than a PURE INT your WEAPON SKILLS such as KNOCK DOWN, SSS, MARS will have higher attack than PURE INTS, and its essciential to get them, espically the passive hp bonus. sa0 tell me your level pls, o wait, its probably below lvl 30 right? please never ever post your stupid posts EVER AGAIN VIDEOS: HYBRID INT SWORD: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3CgMQ8nRR44http://youtube.com/watch?v=enn6wtaMb04HYBRID INT SPEAR: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9NQ7Yy89ygohttp://youtube.com/watch?v=SxTZ9zT6mOwYes, in some of the videos the hybrids lost to their opponents, and as you can see, hybrid int is not cookie cutter build but they still can kill pure strs lets suppose in the first video, the hybrid sword didnt get knock down, what would she do? spam all three nukes? do u know that glavie can take away more than 30% of your hp each hit? and its only a matter of time when they crit, and when they crit they do like 5-6k dmg and 50% of your hp is gone which is exactly you need knock down, you knock him down, and deal damage to him while potting your hp back to live
It is VERY nice of you to post all this amazing information. When he asked if increasing his weapon skills will make him hit harder with nukes lol. This is obviously your first MMO, Nukers arent made to tank, and this game isnt merely based on 1v1(all the vids you posted are 1v1s). Id rather have all of my nukes maxed out, than have weapon skills. Nukers are support characters, while pure strs are meant to be up close taking damage. 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:38 am |
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if u are a hibrid plz use spear
i laught at the damage a hibrid sword do
even int sword have hard time to kill a glaiver
i can go afk whit a hibrid hitting me
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imbackthx
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:39 am |
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wrong again, if u only get force you will be as weak as hell
and btw hes hybrid int, so that means he can stand up to pure strs, and he fking needs weapon skills
why would u need weapon skills? kd owns and protects, sss stuns so he cant pot and u can follow up with nukes to kill, if u just use nukes u will be so weak
and why is mastering weapon skills bad for team work?
if u knock down, your guildies can all stab at the same time, if u use spear and stun, your guildies can finish him off, nukes are not the only way to do dmg when you are hybrid
..... why am i even arguing with a lvl 2x newb who doesnt know sht
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MrH
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:42 am |
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Sorry all for not being more specific.
I am level 53 2:1 with spear (+5 with blues).
These are questions I'd like to know:
1. What level should I bring my weapon mastery up to.
2. What skills should I aquire for my weapon in order for me to be effective in PVP.
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Post subject: Re: Question about 2:1 INT HYBRID Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:21 am |
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MrH wrote: My friend the other day told me it was very important to keep my fire and weapon masterys close as that will allow me to do higher magical attacks (such as a nuke). Is this true?
not true
fire mastery increases damage of your fire nukes & imbue
lightning mastery increases damage of your lightning nukes & imbue
heuskal mastery increases damage of your heuskal attack skills
i understand some of the people who wanted to help ended up making you confused.
you will ONLY NEED soul spear and ghost spear series for PVP
DO NOT put on other heuskal skills
put your weapon mastery as high as you can
if you planned on 70 heuskal and 80 for lightning as well as fire, change it to 80 heuskal and 80 fire then 70 lightning instead.
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MrH
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:04 pm |
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This is great, thanks 
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Post subject: Re: Question about 2:1 INT HYBRID Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:30 pm |
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cometfall wrote: MrH wrote: My friend the other day told me it was very important to keep my fire and weapon masterys close as that will allow me to do higher magical attacks (such as a nuke). Is this true? not true fire mastery increases damage of your fire nukes & imbue lightning mastery increases damage of your lightning nukes & imbue heuskal mastery increases damage of your heuskal attack skills i understand some of the people who wanted to help ended up making you confused. you will ONLY NEED soul spear and ghost spear series for PVP DO NOT put on other heuskal skills put your weapon mastery as high as you can if you planned on 70 heuskal and 80 for lightning as well as fire, change it to 80 heuskal and 80 fire then 70 lightning instead.
well actually im not sure about that...
i think your heksual mastery does influence your nuke power
because it says "when glavie/spear is equipped, the attack power will be increased x%"
if you are nuking, you are dealing damage through the magical attack power of your spear, so i think weapon masteries increase your nuke/imbue powers
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:55 pm |
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I've got a pure int spear char lev 77. I recently increased my spear skills from 30 to 50. no change in nuke damage. It will affect any attacks using physical though.
imback is right with most of his points.
If you use sword/shield for pvp you should use knockdown stab.
Argue if you want but keep it civil
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imbackthx
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:16 pm |
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thx i love you 
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Post subject: ??? Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:07 pm |
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imbackthx wrote: rofl @ the previous responses b/c they are just bad
as hybrid int, you dont have the huge dmg of pure int and the tanking of pure strs, you have a little bit of both, therefore its important to level your bichon (i recommand hekusal as well, for the 1000 hp) because 1. you are hybrid, you need bichon skill because your dmg is mostly mag but with a bit of physical dmg 2. the knock down skills / stab skills will help you a lot on pvps and are life savers 3. passive shield block <-- reallly useful
your pretty gay..why use bichon???its a waste of time..it barely saves u if ever..i am glavie and i can woop people with blades that are way higher levels than me..there just retarded...just strenghen all your magic shi t and then strengthen and use a glavie or a spear...itll work trust me
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Post subject: Re: ??? Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:12 pm |
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zman7590 wrote: imbackthx wrote: rofl @ the previous responses b/c they are just bad
as hybrid int, you dont have the huge dmg of pure int and the tanking of pure strs, you have a little bit of both, therefore its important to level your bichon (i recommand hekusal as well, for the 1000 hp) because 1. you are hybrid, you need bichon skill because your dmg is mostly mag but with a bit of physical dmg 2. the knock down skills / stab skills will help you a lot on pvps and are life savers 3. passive shield block <-- reallly useful your pretty gay..why use bichon???its a waste of time..it barely saves u if ever..i am glavie and i can woop people with blades that are way higher levels than me..there just retarded...just strenghen all your magic shi t and then strengthen and use a glavie or a spear...itll work trust me
sry there, my previous post is bad cuz i thought the thread started was hybrid int sword
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apollo
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:50 pm |
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I still say if you're doing int hybrid... SINCE you have some on str i would go with a weapon tree. 60 or 70 weapon and max out any nuker trees as you please
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