My Bow build (lvl 64) and story (I own ^^)

liquidsmooth · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 149

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

yshi · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 18

liquidsmooth i really liked your build,seems to be very strong,would be nice if you do more videos against all builds,full int,str and hybrid.One question after lvl 65 what you gonna do at your stats?Will add all points into str now?

And at your video,seems that you're using som bow i cant be sure,but the glow seems to be a som bow,is a som or sos?

Hope you do more videos.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:24 am

you cant tell me to leave a topic... i was rooting for you in the begining being a fellow archer but now you are just denieing anyone the right to challange you.. you have sos bow, yet you wont allow anyone to use sos or higher against you ? i dont get it

cin · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:27 am

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

you cant tell me to leave a topic... i was rooting for you in the begining being a fellow archer but now you are just denieing anyone the right to challange you.. you have sos bow, yet you wont allow anyone to use sos or higher against you ? i dont get it

i thought she only said no som or sun?

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:28 am

idk mabey she did, i dont feel like rereading it right now its too late for me

cin · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:29 am

liquidsmooth wrote:

P.S. They can't be using any bullshit moon or sun or +7 sos either.

no need to

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:31 am

ty for clearing that up...

sorry liquidsmooth my bad

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

liquidsmooth wrote:

Just give it up MeganMan, i'm correct. If not anybody that has been following this topic could easily find a full str bower around my level that crits harder.

Megaman is right.

Lets see your critical with a normal +3 bow. Not everyone walks around with a sos+5 bow thats why no one has posted a ss.

liquidsmooth wrote:

P.S. They can't be using any bullshit moon or sun or +7 sos either.

How bout you don't use your sos+5? Please post the stats of your bow.

liquidsmooth wrote:

Once again i've said this already and all anybody is doing is runnith of the mouth. Please refur back to my post as of april 1st in which I asked for evidance your "theory" is correct.

We don't have to prove anything. Its been proven time after time. Every time a pure str criticals. But like I said, lets see your critical with a normal +3 bow. Then we can talk.

liquidsmooth wrote:

.....

Basically, because you has a sos+5 bow. There is no reason why you should lose to anyone around your level with that bow.

HBblade · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:21 am

it's not that you're build is the greatest, it's that u have good gear

gear>build

& i'm guessing u nonzerk crit a mangyang for 30 w/e thousand dmg, great

, picking on the mangyangs again

& bow builds are just lacking in skill effects, they'll get stunned, kb, kd, w/e before they pull off a big hitter

oh...& all my gear pimp & i do better than any bow build out there

liquidsmooth · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 149

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

menteri · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 2

hi liquid, im a pure str glaivier, so i dont really know about bow. But now i need u and other ppl here to give me some help about bow. Im planning to make a resser. so i think(IMO) the best is pure str bow resser. the main function is to ress but in the mean time i also want it to has good damage. so can anybody help with my plan?

so shud i go with pure str or hybrid? if hybrid, wat kind of hybrid? and plis, i dont know how to make make the phy/mag bal to this or that. just give me how to make the balance.

sory if u dont understand.. but i really need ur help with my resser char so he can ress b4 he die and also can support in damaging enemy.

cin · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:18 am

liquidsmooth wrote:

cin wrote:

liquidsmooth wrote:

P.S. They can't be using any bullshit moon or sun or +7 sos either.

no need to

And lastly yes, I want an equivalent build to fight against. 60% of the people out there die on my strongbow (let alone if it crits) and it's pointelss. Oh and I forgot to hear the excuse for the guy that was exactly my level with a SOS +7 FULL STR GLAVE USER. When I burned him in one cycle of hits with 0 crits. What was the excuse for that again please list it. (don't even mention gear because if he's got an sos +7, you know that's not the only thing he has that's pimped)

hm i dont know if you read through the posts but the "no need to" was
for [TS]=Hark=[TS] for "no need to" check all the posts to see that you
didnt say they werent allowed to wear sos

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

ty for clearing that up...

sorry liquidsmooth my bad

and he actually apologizes for that and u quote us as if we just
attacked you lmao

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

liquidsmooth wrote:

Shut your mouths. I posted a video of a full str glaver using an sos +7 rapping glaive. You don't have anythign to say, any of you. I duel people with equivalent items and level or better. As i've shown proof of.

So how does PvPing one person prove anything?

liquidsmooth wrote:

My gear isn't pimp either. the only nice thing I have is an sos +5. In which I took a video clip of all your favorites "full str" glavers with a better weapon than I with stun!!! omg stun, and I tore his ass to the ground in 1 round of hits. You think a bow has a better chance at killing than a sos +7 glave user, get lost.

Yup, one person makes you correct.

liquidsmooth wrote:

How about I don't use my sos+5? Wtf kinda request is that. How about I duel somebody naked with a +1 bow and use barries for hp potions, would that give me a disadvantage enough that you'd stop whining.

Its a good request. Go get a +3 bow and fight multiple glaivers with +3 glaives and post the results. Using a +3 weapon isn't outrageous as you make it seem considering that 90% of the server most likely uses +3 weapons. Seems like you may be afraid of losing.

liquidsmooth wrote:

This isn't a perfect world nor a perfect game. In my video I compared agruable the strongest char in the game, maybe you should watch that again. Why would I put myself at a disadvantage to what i'm working with.

The world also does not revolve around one player. Beating one person doesn't really prove much. We're not asking you to fight him with +3 bow, but go fight other glaivers with +3 glaives.

liquidsmooth wrote:

Again your telling me what i'm promoting. If you don't like what I have to say or how I prove thing with facts, than don't read about my character. I will nto sit here and have to defend myself my results speak for themselves.

1 result?

liquidsmooth wrote:

Furthermore at level 72 I will be using a plain bow that I will have to alchemy myself. When I bust the cap on the mangyang plus 20k and rub that in your face I wonder what you'll say then.

Looking forward to it.

liquidsmooth wrote:

Go watch my video again.

Done so.

liquidsmooth wrote:

And lastly, stop running your mouths. Post screen shots. There is a bazallion full str bowers out there, all you need to do is to get one critting a mangyang, and compare.

We need to get one with a sos+5 bow. Why don't you do us a favor and post a critical with +3 bow since it would be easier to find another archer with a +3 bow.

liquidsmooth wrote:

I want to see less talk and more of you proving me wrong, because that's all you do is yack, and so far, besdies msot of your useless words, that's all it's been, TALK.

Would you mine showing us some proof too. Its not hard to pick up a +3 bow and go fight a some glaive users outside donwang south or jangan south.

liquidsmooth wrote:

And 0% of you proving anything to me besdies the age old "your gearz is more leetsors and that's why you w0n!"

Truth. Like I said, everyone doesn't walk around with a sos+5 bow.

menteri · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 2

da realest, would u mind posting ur build? coz u look so mad with liquid build.. so i assume u have better build.. well i wanna see.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

menteri wrote:

da realest, would u mind posting ur build? coz u look so mad with liquid build.. so i assume u have better build.. well i wanna see.

Where do I seem mad? I feel pretty content. Its just that one fight doesn't really prove that your build is good. If anything, using a sos+5 bow proves that your gear is good.

If liquidsmooth proves that his/her build is good, I will probably make that same build too.

You can assume I have a better build but my str hybrid bow isn't that high of a level and is currently farming with a normal +3 bow. I've fought about 10 glaivers my level so far. Only 3 have beaten me. One used a SOM glaive, one used a sos, and one used a +3. Does that make my bow build good? Who knows.

HBblade · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:42 am

cin wrote:

liquidsmooth wrote:

cin wrote:

liquidsmooth wrote:

P.S. They can't be using any bullshit moon or sun or +7 sos either.

no need to

And lastly yes, I want an equivalent build to fight against. 60% of the people out there die on my strongbow (let alone if it crits) and it's pointelss. Oh and I forgot to hear the excuse for the guy that was exactly my level with a SOS +7 FULL STR GLAVE USER. When I burned him in one cycle of hits with 0 crits. What was the excuse for that again please list it. (don't even mention gear because if he's got an sos +7, you know that's not the only thing he has that's pimped)

hm i dont know if you read through the posts but the "no need to" was
for [TS]=Hark=[TS] for "no need to" check all the posts to see that you
didnt say they werent allowed to wear sos

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

ty for clearing that up...

sorry liquidsmooth my bad

and he actually apologizes for that and u quote us as if we just
attacked you lmao

the glave took some pretty hard hits & he was in garms agains a hybrid, i doubt his gear was pimp to urs (though he does have a sos+7, there are many ppl out there w/ crap gear carrying sox weapons), nor was he farm near ur lvl judging from his dmg, he's probably 9 gap farming, unless otherwise

Hasbin · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 230 **Location:**

Liquidsmooth, dont worry about all the posts that try to bring u down.
Those posts are from ppl who either are pure str bow, who dont wanna see a hybrid doing good or dont have a clear view of ur build and ur tactics.

Keep up the good work. :wink:

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Hasbin wrote:

Liquidsmooth, dont worry about all the posts that try to bring u down.
Those posts are from ppl who either are pure str bow, who dont wanna see a hybrid doing good or dont have a clear view of ur build and ur tactics.

Keep up the good work. :wink:

I know the truth hurts but that doesn't mean you have to go and make up lies about what we think. Everyone has provided a logical reason why they believe what they believe.

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

well even if there are arguments on both sides, i still prefer full str light fire heuksal pacheon bow build.

liquidsmooth · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 149

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

liquidsmooth wrote:

Da_Realest: I sure wish I'd meat you in real life so I could punch you in the mouth, your jsut posting agervating topics not accomplisting anything.

That really shows how immature you are. This is a public forum. Expect people to question you. My post may not be the most constructive on the forum but they are much more than yours. My post accomplish that you and Hasbin are unable to except the truth. The truth hurts but I didn't know it hurts that much.

liquidsmooth wrote:

The point is it is a full str stop of the line glaver with a sos +7, if you can beat him what other compatition is there, nukers? hybrids?

Anyone can win in pvp with an sos+5.

liquidsmooth wrote:

I can kill all them with my 4 arrow combo or devil + 4 arrow combo. It's more than you've proved, your just spew bs like my entire post stated. Go away.

I don't spew bs, I speak facts. Facts that you are afraid of and avoid so you insist on wanting to beat me up. lol

liquidsmooth wrote:

And yes, let see your build.

My build has nothing to do with this. I never said "I own" or made a topic about it so there is no point in me posting my build.

liquidsmooth wrote:

And yes i'd be afraid of losing with a +3 bow because I find better drops than a +3 bow on the ground.

Thanks for proving my point. You haven't proven your build good, just that your bow is good.

liquidsmooth wrote:

Not to mention most of the high levels i'd say at least 60% have a +5 or more.

Shame thats not true. I played on Alps server yesterday and seen plenty of 64 glaivers with +3 weapons.

liquidsmooth wrote:

HBblade: that's outrageous, I was in garm against a full str glaiver. Be quiet.

He's right in saying that. He has a sos+7 glaive and isn't even hitting hard. I fought many 64 glaivers with 64+3 weapons that do as much damage as he does.

liquidsmooth wrote:

Da_Realest. Well if this was a court of law.....

Something of this matter wouldn't be handle in a court of law, but would be handled more like a science project. You don't do something once and say thats the final result and that it is correct or it is wrong. You test many times to see if you get the same results. If you just use a +3 bow, you could test many times and if you win to loss ratio is in your favor, then I guess you can say your build does own.

liquidsmooth wrote:

I'd find a str bower to duel but it'd kinda be a waste of time but i'll do it just to shut you up. I'll duel RedCross who is lvl 67 full str fire bow, film it, post it, say I told you so, than you can piss off. Btw she always has an sos +5 and is in garm.

Still won't prove much. Get an +3 bow and go fight multiple str builds then we can talk.

You keep saying you want evidence. Of what? Pure str bows doing well in PvP? I have plenty.

Hasbin · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 230 **Location:**

Da_Realest u really are the most one-sided, stereotyped person ive ever seen.

Pure str bow is not the only way to go. There are alternatives that do good too. If u dont realise that stop posting.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Hasbin wrote:

Da_Realest u really are the most one-sided, stereotyped person ive ever seen.

Pure str bow is not the only way to go. There are alternatives that do good too. If u dont realise that stop posting.

One sided? Please point out where I said Pure Str Bow is the best build for bow or is the only way to go. Please do. Find a quote of me saying that. If you can't, don't you bother posting either. Might as well don't post because I never said such a thing.

Hasbin · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 230 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

Hasbin wrote:

Da_Realest u really are the most one-sided, stereotyped person ive ever seen.

Pure str bow is not the only way to go. There are alternatives that do good too. If u dont realise that stop posting.

One sided? Please point out where I said Pure Str Bow is the best build for bow or is the only way to go. Please do. Find a quote of me saying that. If you can't, don't you bother posting either. Might as well don't post because I never said such a thing.

Why the ..... do u keep comparing hybrid bows with pure str bow than???

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Hasbin wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Hasbin wrote:

Da_Realest u really are the most one-sided, stereotyped person ive ever seen.

Pure str bow is not the only way to go. There are alternatives that do good too. If u dont realise that stop posting.

One sided? Please point out where I said Pure Str Bow is the best build for bow or is the only way to go. Please do. Find a quote of me saying that. If you can't, don't you bother posting either. Might as well don't post because I never said such a thing.

Why the ..... do u keep comparing hybrid bows with pure str bow than???

I don't. You hybrid bows are usually the first one's that compare your builds to pure str first. You did in your topic and Jadekiss did in his. I didn't really start debating with Liquidsmooth about pure str bow until he/she said that he/she could critical harder than a pure str bow.

liquidsmooth · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 149

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

liquidsmooth wrote:

And you have yet to prove otherwise.

What do you want me to prove? If you're talking about criticals then thats already been proven. We posted the correct formula already. Its not our fault you refuse to believe it.

And you've yet to prove that your build is good, just that your bow is good.

s0ulless · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 114

First of all, not a bad build at all. I am actually testing out a hybrid build myself for bowmen to see how it works.

I just wanted to state that the pvp video varies a lot. Regardless of his +7 sos, his weapon may be good but a character strength varies how if they are farmed, gears and level. A farmed level 52 char and take out a non farmed level 60 char with the same exact gears so it varies on many factors. If you have some pictures or more evidence, it will help prove your build more instead of having more critics.

Pure Str bows = Weak
Pure int bows = Weak
Hybrids = A better choice ^^ just needs to find the perfect balance.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

s0ulless wrote:

First of all, not a bad build at all. I am actually testing out a hybrid build myself for bowmen to see how it works.

I just wanted to state that the pvp video varies a lot. Regardless of his +7 sos, his weapon may be good but a character strength varies how if they are farmed, gears and level. A farmed level 52 char and take out a non farmed level 60 char with the same exact gears so it varies on many factors. If you have some pictures or more evidence, it will help prove your build more instead of having more critics.

Pure Str bows = Weak
Pure int bows = Weak
Hybrids = A better choice ^^ just needs to find the perfect balance.

I agree with you for the most part. I don't agree that pure str bows are weak, but I agree that the answer to a near perfect bow build is going to have to be a hybrid. Which is why I am also testing out a hybrid archer.

liquidsmooth · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 149

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

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