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 Post subject: YEAAA Its Yuri Gagarin
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on this day (12th April) 1961, he became the first person in space and the
first person to orbit the Earth.

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OTL anyone? :roll:

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on this day (12th April) 1961, he became the first person in space and the
first person to orbit the Earth.

:D

So you're Russian?

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no but i am a socialist. :roll:

but i mean come on, this guy was an actual hero...where as today we
idolise shitty pop singers and crappy actors

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no but i am a socialist. :roll:

You mean communist? lol

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but i mean come on, this guy was an actual hero...where as today we
idolise shitty pop singers and crappy actors

I totally agree.

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no socailist and communist are 2 different things.

like bolsheviks and communits

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no socailist and communist are 2 different things.

like bolsheviks and communits

Well, if you are extremely socialist, you are a communist. Like Jan Marijnisen here in The Netherlands, lol.

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no...like i said before socialist, communist and bolsheviks may all
stem from karl marx's orignal teachings but are all likewise different.

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Quyxz wrote:
satman83 wrote:
no socailist and communist are 2 different things.

like bolsheviks and communits

Well, if you are extremely socialist, you are a communist. Like Jan Marijnisen here in The Netherlands, lol.



Although socialism isn't technically communism, it's a communistic ideal.
Im capitalist. I've started my own buisness at age 14. satman must hate me.

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LittleTom wrote:
Quyxz wrote:
satman83 wrote:
no socailist and communist are 2 different things.

like bolsheviks and communits

Well, if you are extremely socialist, you are a communist. Like Jan Marijnisen here in The Netherlands, lol.



Although socialism isn't technically communism, it's a communistic ideal.
Im capitalist. I've started my own buisness at age 14. satman must hate me.


well socialism came first then communism...but anyway, i dont hate you
i just pity you. That when the revoultion comes you will be destroyed
with the rest of the capitalistic pigs

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satman83 wrote:
LittleTom wrote:
Quyxz wrote:
satman83 wrote:
no socailist and communist are 2 different things.

like bolsheviks and communits

Well, if you are extremely socialist, you are a communist. Like Jan Marijnisen here in The Netherlands, lol.



Although socialism isn't technically communism, it's a communistic ideal.
Im capitalist. I've started my own buisness at age 14. satman must hate me.


well socialism came first then communism...but anyway, i dont hate you
i just pity you. That when the revoultion comes you will be destroyed
with the rest of the capitalistic pigs

I dont get it... why will we be destryoed? Who will destroy us?

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when the revolution comes silly :P

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satman83 wrote:
LittleTom wrote:
Quyxz wrote:
satman83 wrote:
no socailist and communist are 2 different things.

like bolsheviks and communits

Well, if you are extremely socialist, you are a communist. Like Jan Marijnisen here in The Netherlands, lol.



Although socialism isn't technically communism, it's a communistic ideal.
Im capitalist. I've started my own buisness at age 14. satman must hate me.


well socialism came first then communism...but anyway, i dont hate you
i just pity you. That when the revoultion comes you will be destroyed
with the rest of the capitalistic pigs


lol, what do you communits (or whatever you call yourselves) hate about capitalists? Capitalism helps free trade, and makes the economy better. And dont tell me i shun the poor, because i help fundraise for poverty relief organizations and donate money to the salvation army and other such organizations (no im not trying brag im just stating a fact). And besides that, any hobo can find some job some minimum wage job somewhere, save his money until he has enough to clean himself up, and make his own buisness, or go to school and aquire some skills of some kind so he can get real job.

I dont understand the socialist mindset, it encourages poeple not to work hard, because they cant get any better than anyone else, and makes the public much worse off financaily than they would be under capitalism.
If you studied russian history at all you could see that.


Capitalism FTW. Vote libretarian, and pray that Hilary Clinton doesnt get elected and ruin our healthcare system.

(which reminds me, the United States has some of the best healthcare in the world, why is that? becuase we dont have socail welfare.)

Edit: Sorry for being so off topic, i just really enjoy debating.

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oh really??

look at Tzarist Russia and Communist Russia, which one was better
off there..Communist

Cuba and Communist Cuba...defiently communist cuba. best health care
in the world and best education system in the world (98% adult litercay).

Sorry to say but the main reason that commuisum is given such a bad
view is that the people who hate is most (the ones in power :roll: ), would
have nothing in a communist state. i mean 1950's to 1990's the US
hated Russia. as soon as they become a capitalist country (i.e companies
can trade and make money with) then they want to be there firends.

look capitalism and communism dont work...either do, thats the problem

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Also look at china, a country that is more wealthy and more industrius
then any other in the western world (in 30 years the worlds new super
power if its industry and economy continue to rise). i mean Chian
isnt just all about people not riseing, they have companies and people
can do what they want...but as its all government controlled you dont
get the bullshit that you do here in the UK with wealfare and being
nice to crimminal or compaines ripping people off

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China is so communist that the Chinese people are so desperate that they work for like $0.5 per hour. :P

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Socialism kinda messed things up here in germany (eastside) :roll:

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Quyxz wrote:
China is so communist that the Chinese people are so desperate that they work for like $0.5 per hour.


lol what? yea because america doesnt pay imigrant workers less then
that to work shitty jobs...oh wait yes they do. :roll:

and no china doesnt pay people $0.5 per hour ... its just american
propaganda. look American isnt the best country in the world, it has
one of the worst healt service, worst education systems and the
one of the worlds biggest polluters

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satman83 wrote:
Quyxz wrote:
China is so communist that the Chinese people are so desperate that they work for like $0.5 per hour.


lol what? yea because america doesnt pay imigrant workers less then
that to work shitty jobs...oh wait yes they do. :roll:

and no china doesnt pay people $0.5 per hour ... its just american
propaganda. look American isnt the best country in the world, it has
one of the worst healt service, worst education systems and the
one of the worlds biggest polluters

True, that's why I'm Dutch. ^^

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oh yea...its in your avy as well :roll: lol

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satman83 wrote:
oh really??

look at Tzarist Russia and Communist Russia, which one was better
off there..Communist

Cuba and Communist Cuba...defiently communist cuba. best health care
in the world and best education system in the world (98% adult litercay).

Sorry to say but the main reason that commuisum is given such a bad
view is that the people who hate is most (the ones in power :roll: ), would
have nothing in a communist state. i mean 1950's to 1990's the US
hated Russia. as soon as they become a capitalist country (i.e companies
can trade and make money with) then they want to be there firends.

look capitalism and communism dont work...either do, thats the problem

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Also look at china, a country that is more wealthy and more industrius
then any other in the western world (in 30 years the worlds new super
power if its industry and economy continue to rise). i mean Chian
isnt just all about people not riseing, they have companies and people
can do what they want...but as its all government controlled you dont
get the bullshit that you do here in the UK with wealfare and being
nice to crimminal or compaines ripping people off


Looking at Tsarist russia vs Communist russia i would say Tsarist was better. Although Tsarist wasn't good either (i think there should be as little government as possible although some is neccasary, i think there should be as little as possible) 62million poeple died under stallin. He killed jews, he went on random purges and killed millions of poeple. why? becuase he could. There was also that huge famine caused by stalin forcing farmers to farm under certain regulations. Neither of those systems were good IMHO however, tsarist russia was much better than communist russia.

I havn't studied cuban history so i can't really say anything about it....

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(which reminds me, the United States has some of the best healthcare in the world, why is that? becuase we dont have socail welfare.)


Serious? Lol.

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satman83 wrote:
Quyxz wrote:
China is so communist that the Chinese people are so desperate that they work for like $0.5 per hour.


lol what? yea because america doesnt pay imigrant workers less then
that to work shitty jobs...oh wait yes they do. :roll:

and no china doesnt pay people $0.5 per hour ... its just american
propaganda. look American isnt the best country in the world, it has
one of the worst healt service, worst education systems and the
one of the worlds biggest polluters


Global warming= Bshit
But i agree with you, the american public school system is tottaly inept why? because the government controlls it. the sooner the government starts regulating things, the sooner they lack any quality. Government regulation= A communist idea. The public school system=Regulated by the government. Another example of how socailism screws everything up.

Hence the reason i'm homeschooled. (not because my capitalistic parents make me, but because i chose to)

And as far as china not paying poeple 0.5$/hour i would ask you to show me figures of them paying worthwhile wages.

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LittleTom wrote:
satman83 wrote:
Quyxz wrote:
China is so communist that the Chinese people are so desperate that they work for like $0.5 per hour.


lol what? yea because america doesnt pay imigrant workers less then
that to work shitty jobs...oh wait yes they do. :roll:

and no china doesnt pay people $0.5 per hour ... its just american
propaganda. look American isnt the best country in the world, it has
one of the worst healt service, worst education systems and the
one of the worlds biggest polluters


Global warming= Bshit
But i agree with you, the american public school system is tottaly inept why? because the government controlls it. the sooner the government starts regulating things, the sooner they lack any quality. Government regulation= A communist idea. The public school system=Regulated by the government. Another example of how socailism screws everything up.

Hence the reason i'm homeschooled. (not because my capitalistic parents make me, but because i chose to)

And as far as china not paying poeple 0.5$/hour i would ask you to show me figures of them paying worthwhile wages.

Nono, global warming is going on for sure. All Gore FTW. :P

Let's make another topic about that lol.

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lol, and then we start making politcal parties on srf, which turns into a politcal debate forum


No really though, Global Warming has no scientific basis.

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(which reminds me, the United States has some of the best healthcare in the world, why is that? becuase we dont have socail welfare.)


Serious? Lol.


comparitivly yes.

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Sry but ... discussing political systems on a GAMING FORUM is a little bit ridiculous ... my 2 cents ;<

Wee Yuri ^^ ... old Kosmonaut.

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Sry but ... discussing political systems on a GAMING FORUM is a little bit ridiculous ... my 2 cents ;<

Wee Yuri ^^ ... old Kosmonaut.


ok fine, ill link this to Silkroad.

here is what silkroad will be like with communism: No one can have any more gold than anyone else. You can never win in pvp because everyone is equal. oh ya, you all have to use the same gear, and all have to be the same level.

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LittleTom wrote:
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Sry but ... discussing political systems on a GAMING FORUM is a little bit ridiculous ... my 2 cents ;<

Wee Yuri ^^ ... old Kosmonaut.


ok fine, ill link this to Silkroad.

here is what silkroad will be like with communism: No one can have any more gold than anyone else. You can never win in pvp because everyone is equal. oh ya, you all have to use the same gear, and all have to be the same level.


lol wow this thread is insane now...anyway SRO is like a capitalist
paridise....SHIT LOADS OF GOLD....hyper inflated prices :roll: .

oh and as for "because everyone is equal. " thats not true if your a
doctor or lawyer oh and have you noticed that communinst countries
have a really good education system. Cuba and China among the worlds
best..why? because they use a 1950's style of education, no touchy
feely crapy just hardcore study

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satman83 wrote:
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Sry but ... discussing political systems on a GAMING FORUM is a little bit ridiculous ... my 2 cents ;<

Wee Yuri ^^ ... old Kosmonaut.


ok fine, ill link this to Silkroad.

here is what silkroad will be like with communism: No one can have any more gold than anyone else. You can never win in pvp because everyone is equal. oh ya, you all have to use the same gear, and all have to be the same level.


lol wow this thread is insane now...anyway SRO is like a capitalist
paridise....SHIT LOADS OF GOLD....hyper inflated prices :roll: .

oh and as for "because everyone is equal. " thats not true if your a
doctor or lawyer oh and have you noticed that communinst countries
have a really good education system. Cuba and China among the worlds
best..why? because they use a 1950's style of education, no touchy
feely crapy just hardcore study


Oh i agree with you, americas government regulated public school system is completely inept, and is more of a social club. As i said before, government regulation is a communist idea.

Homeschool= win.

Edit: The econemy is just fine in my opinion. since it is capitalist i have the ability to make gold.

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