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jichiong
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Post subject: + weapons Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:22 pm |
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hi guys,
I haven't done any alchemy at all. i got a nice sos bow lvl 24 and was hoping to +3 it. how many wep elixirs on the average would it take?
also, i was thinking of adding int/str since i got some tabs on it. but not sure if it be worth it, meaning if i fail them and mess up the white stats. i play on persia, meaning if i would rather sell them to be able to afford better gears later on than fail/fail/succeed/fail.
tnx.
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EllisD
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:26 pm |
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There is no "average" number of elixirs \ stones it will take to enchant an item. Its ALL luck.
One day i +'d half of my gear to 4 first pop. Next day, i failed to +2 my chest 8 times in a row.
If you have the money, do it.
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SextoEspada
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:27 pm |
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it's just pure luck
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jichiong
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:31 pm |
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was afraid u'll all say that  but i know its true. same with finding sos i guess.
btw, do u always use lucky powder?
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+1 so true.
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MastaChiefX
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:32 pm |
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I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
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jichiong
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:39 pm |
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do u guys know the diff between no + with like +1/2/3? i haven't seen a + sos 24 bow in my server so i can't compare. i know that sos bows have higher stats that same lvl reg. bows.
also, i got a nice protector sos set (bought them for cheap) and was thinking of farming at lvl 24 with the sos bow. i can't afford a sos 16 so wasn't able to farm that much at bandit. my question is what is the best mobs to train at lvl 24? horses or hungyno (or watever) ghost becoz of the wind 2/4?
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+1 so true.
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Silver0
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:51 pm |
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MastaChiefX wrote: I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
tried it before i failed +1 =_= just use powder so you dont spend anothere 100-150k when you could of bought some cheap lucky powder
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:06 pm |
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why go for +3 when you could go for +4?
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shoto
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:18 pm |
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MastaChiefX wrote: I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
+1
except i always use luck on weapons since weapon elixirs cost a decent amount more than other elixirs.
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Matrixman__
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:58 pm |
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shoto wrote: MastaChiefX wrote: I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on. +1 except i always use luck on weapons since weapon elixirs cost a decent amount more than other elixirs.
haha, i had some spare access elixirs, tried 8 of them on a item without lucky powder, ALL of them failed, but i free'd up some inventory room
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Matrixman__
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:58 pm |
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so ya, always use lucky powder!!!!
if it doesnt go +3 after like 5-10 tries, give up and sell it at +2
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desolator144
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:15 am |
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I estimate the odds decreasing at a rate of +1 to the denominator of the probability in fraction form....in other words +1 is 1:2 odds, +2 is 1:3 odds, +3 is 1:4 odds. And lucky powder seems to -1 from the denominator so +1 is 1:1 and +2 is 1:2 and +3 is 1:3 so the odds of getting straight from +0 to +3 with lucky powders is 1 in 6 but that doesn't translate clearly into a number of elixers since the odds stop twice during the 1 in 6 period.
In my experience though it takes about 10-15 elixers on average.
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HBblade
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:18 am |
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desolator144
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:31 am |
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that's definitely correct because I +4ed two of my items and it took like 5 million and made me just about wanna pull my hair out
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shadowman20875
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:56 am |
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lets see, lowest = 3 and highest = idk... lets say... 21 soo. (3+21)/2=... didnt get this far in math yet
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Rainigul
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:57 am |
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Delete this, it's a double post! 
Last edited by Rainigul on Thu May 03, 2007 12:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Rainigul
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:58 am |
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The first time I tried alchemy at lv 24, I had 24 shield elixirs, my shield was already +2.
By the end of all those elixirs, I had a +1 shield. it NEVER got to +3, I don't even think it got back to +2.
Later, at lv 52, I got all my gear to +2/3 in one try, none of it failed. I also blued all my stuff and got +100% int on most of my items.
Moral: Alchemy is just luck.
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StealMySoda
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:02 am |
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Silver0 wrote: MastaChiefX wrote: I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on. tried it before i failed +1 =_= just use powder so you dont spend anothere 100-150k when you could of bought some cheap lucky powder
48 for a 8d lucky powder, is generally the same price as a acc/shield elixir, so your idea is flawed.
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Kill_4_FooD
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:44 am |
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id say it will take u about 5-8 weap elix and the int/str stones would be like 3-4 stones minimum just use 10% assim stones and u should be good
ps. u got me in ur sig xD
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Silver0
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:51 am |
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StealMySoda wrote: Silver0 wrote: MastaChiefX wrote: I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on. tried it before i failed +1 =_= just use powder so you dont spend anothere 100-150k when you could of bought some cheap lucky powder 48 for a 8d lucky powder, is generally the same price as a acc/shield elixir, so your idea is flawed. well if it fails you still pay it Rainigul wrote: Delete this, it's a double post! 
dude you should know how
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