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Fat_Smurf
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Post subject: spear +5 or sword+5 for sp farming at peon Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:02 am |
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I'm planning to sp farm at penon once i'll be 52 with a 9 fap and I was wondering wich weap I should get, sword or spear? I can't affrod sos :s but I can afford +5, so w/o a sos can I still one shot a penon wiht a spear? if no I should get a sword right so I can nuke+lion or nuke+skill on them?
and if I can't one shot penon, what is needed to do it?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:15 am |
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whatever your highest mastery is.
youll need the % increase.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:20 am |
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MrFudge wrote: whatever your highest mastery is.
youll need the % increase. Just... ROFL Quote: I'm planning to sp farm at penon once i'll be 52 with a 9 fap and I was wondering wich weap I should get, sword or spear? I can't affrod sos :s but I can afford +5, so w/o a sos can I still one shot a penon wiht a spear? if no I should get a sword right so I can nuke+lion or nuke+skill on them?
and if I can't one shot penon, what is needed to do it?
Use spear if u want 1 shot penons. But penon can 1 crit u 
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Fat_Smurf
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:42 am |
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NuclearSilo wrote: MrFudge wrote: whatever your highest mastery is.
youll need the % increase. Just... ROFL Quote: I'm planning to sp farm at penon once i'll be 52 with a 9 fap and I was wondering wich weap I should get, sword or spear? I can't affrod sos :s but I can afford +5, so w/o a sos can I still one shot a penon wiht a spear? if no I should get a sword right so I can nuke+lion or nuke+skill on them?
and if I can't one shot penon, what is needed to do it? Use spear if u want 1 shot penons. But penon can 1 crit u 
i'll be able to one shot themwith a simple spear+5?
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egyptology
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:56 am |
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Fat_Smurf wrote: NuclearSilo wrote: MrFudge wrote: whatever your highest mastery is.
youll need the % increase. Just... ROFL Quote: I'm planning to sp farm at penon once i'll be 52 with a 9 fap and I was wondering wich weap I should get, sword or spear? I can't affrod sos :s but I can afford +5, so w/o a sos can I still one shot a penon wiht a spear? if no I should get a sword right so I can nuke+lion or nuke+skill on them?
and if I can't one shot penon, what is needed to do it? Use spear if u want 1 shot penons. But penon can 1 crit u  i'll be able to one shot themwith a simple spear+5?
Mo, u won't be able to. Fire nuke + shout + shout = 1 kill w/ sos+ 7 for int hybrid 90%.
+5.....no....2 nukes for you.
Sry for poor english...im eating + typuing w/1 hand
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:59 am |
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you could gain a few lvls and then delvl and use either, but delvling takes sooo long.
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Fat_Smurf
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:05 am |
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well i'm pure int :S so if I need to 2 shot I'll go with sword then
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Fat_Smurf
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:04 am |
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hum i've been checking aournd for price and stat...I have aorund 25k right now can reach 40-50 if I sell all my useless stuff...
spear 52+5 is around 800mag dmg and sell for 18-20kk
spear sos 52+5 is around 900 mag dmg and sell for 70-80kk
sword 52+5 is aorund 700 mag dmg and sell for 10-14kk
sword sos 52+5 is around 820 dmg and sell for 60-75kk
shield 52+5 sell for aorund 10-12kk
shield sos 52+5 sell for around 50-60kk
so a sos+5 sword do aorund the same damage as a spear+5... what i'm planning to do is once I reach lvl 52 i'll try my plain 52 spear on penon it have 666 mag dmg if I'm close to the one shot i'll buy a +5 and might get one shot, if not i,ll go for s/s so I can 2 shot and have decent defense and have fun in pvp too ^^
or if someone could confirm me if you can or can't one shot a penon at lvl 52 mastery 43 pure int with a spear +5 it'll save me lot of time 
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egyptology
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:36 am |
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Fat_Smurf wrote: hum i've been checking aournd for price and stat...I have aorund 25k right now can reach 40-50 if I sell all my useless stuff... spear 52+5 is around 800mag dmg and sell for 18-20kk spear sos 52+5 is around 900 mag dmg and sell for 70-80kk sword 52+5 is aorund 700 mag dmg and sell for 10-14kk sword sos 52+5 is around 820 dmg and sell for 60-75kk shield 52+5 sell for aorund 10-12kk shield sos 52+5 sell for around 50-60kk so a sos+5 sword do aorund the same damage as a spear+5... what i'm planning to do is once I reach lvl 52 i'll try my plain 52 spear on penon it have 666 mag dmg if I'm close to the one shot i'll buy a +5 and might get one shot, if not i,ll go for s/s so I can 2 shot and have decent defense and have fun in pvp too ^^ or if someone could confirm me if you can or can't one shot a penon at lvl 52 mastery 43 pure int with a spear +5 it'll save me lot of time 
I can confirm that you can't one shot a penon at 52 with lvl 43 masteries.
With only I think 10 str points and the rest int at 52 with a 9 gap, and 53 with a 9 gap, with an sos+7 (meaning....+12 spear), I can't one shot a penon, by far. If I can't you can't with a +5. The best you can hope for is the second fire nuke + shout to one penon, and the next one attack with regular fire nuke + soul spear. That'll kill 2 in 7 seconds. Being sword isn't worth it for PVE. pure int spear is the fastest grinder. You could alternatively just go straight to 72 without farming 0-gapping and farm on nachals in garms (meaning little damage to a pure int). Penons are infested with grinders (whether botters or legit), nachals though isn't a good place to bot...so there's usually like....3-8 people there at any time with super high spawn rates.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:53 am |
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egyptology wrote: Fat_Smurf wrote: hum i've been checking aournd for price and stat...I have aorund 25k right now can reach 40-50 if I sell all my useless stuff... spear 52+5 is around 800mag dmg and sell for 18-20kk spear sos 52+5 is around 900 mag dmg and sell for 70-80kk sword 52+5 is aorund 700 mag dmg and sell for 10-14kk sword sos 52+5 is around 820 dmg and sell for 60-75kk shield 52+5 sell for aorund 10-12kk shield sos 52+5 sell for around 50-60kk so a sos+5 sword do aorund the same damage as a spear+5... what i'm planning to do is once I reach lvl 52 i'll try my plain 52 spear on penon it have 666 mag dmg if I'm close to the one shot i'll buy a +5 and might get one shot, if not i,ll go for s/s so I can 2 shot and have decent defense and have fun in pvp too ^^ or if someone could confirm me if you can or can't one shot a penon at lvl 52 mastery 43 pure int with a spear +5 it'll save me lot of time  I can confirm that you can't one shot a penon at 52 with lvl 43 masteries. With only I think 10 str points and the rest int at 52 with a 9 gap, and 53 with a 9 gap, with an sos+7 (meaning....+12 spear), I can't one shot a penon, by far. If I can't you can't with a +5. The best you can hope for is the second fire nuke + shout to one penon, and the next one attack with regular fire nuke + soul spear. That'll kill 2 in 7 seconds. Being sword isn't worth it for PVE. pure int spear is the fastest grinder. You could alternatively just go straight to 72 without farming 0-gapping and farm on nachals in garms (meaning little damage to a pure int). Penons are infested with grinders (whether botters or legit), nachals though isn't a good place to bot...so there's usually like....3-8 people there at any time with super high spawn rates.
hum... I think i'll go s/s and nuke+lion // nuke+kd/stab or chain on second
cause i've been grinding with spear since lvl1 and I hav to say I hate it cause everytime I pvp I ge tone shot my people of the same lvl of me lol
and I can't grind to 72 wiht 0 gap cause I wont have enough sp to get decent skill I've been grinding to 44 with 0-2 gap lol so I nee dto max my stuff now before going back to grinding ^^
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Post subject: Re: spear +5 or sword+5 for sp farming at peon Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:15 am |
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this is my nice som+5 sword along w/ very nicely pimp set of sox garm gear, & i still do 1nuke+shout to kill 1 penon (nice 250 sxexp or so ^^)...
do arnd 4.5~4.8k w/ 1st book fire/light nuke, do arnd 5.3~5.5k 2nd book fire...so it's better to just use 1st fire/light then use 1 of the 2 shouts to kill a penon fighter, & just occassionally spam 2nd book fire for giant
so i doubt u can 1 shot even w/ ur sos+5 spear, lmfao to whoever thinks they can 1 shot lvl 54 w/ sos+5, maybe u can 1-shot w/ som+5 or so spear, but not likely a sword & as u can see 110% is very high mag.%, not highest but higher than what most ppl can spend
& i doubt u can survive giants w/o a shield at lvl 52, unless u have on godly sox armor
normal+5 will most likely be 2 nukes & a shout or something like that 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:30 am |
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I dont have an SOS and i cant afford to buy one tooo  , but i do have a Spear LVL 52+3 wit lots of INT and STR and nice CRIT and Block on it..... im plannin on farming at 52....
One question though -
How much SP do we get at 9 lvl gap at 52 with a GT & a 4 member XP Distri party ??
And may b XP too ...
BTW im 90% INT Spear Nuker with Protector 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:37 am |
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truez wrote: I dont have an SOS and i cant afford to buy one tooo  , but i do have a Spear LVL 52+3 wit lots of INT and STR and nice CRIT and Block on it..... im plannin on farming at 52.... One question though - How much SP do we get at 9 lvl gap at 52 with a GT & a 4 member XP Distri party ?? And may b XP too ... BTW im 90% INT Spear Nuker with Protector 
at lvl 52 w/ 9 gap & full party u get 255sexp, but it depends on rate u kill...52+3 spear, u'll be killing pretty slow
it's 1nuke+1shout, & get 1/2 sp, so that's pretty fast for me, better than stronghold
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:42 am |
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Is tis wit GT or w/o GT
BTW GT is Gold Ticket 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:53 am |
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I'm level 52, 9 gap, farming at peons ... It's freaken awesome and I'm farming faster then my friend at bandit archers (level 16 SoM+5 bow)...
I'm using an SoS spear +5. I can't always one shot peon fighters and it usually takes a nuke and a lion shout to do it. In your case I’d go with a +5 spear. I’ve seen “Sword nukers” taking 3 nukes to kill these things.
Use armor (duh) and put as much +Hp and possible. I have +500 Health and when I’m getting mobbed by 3 peons and a giant its lights out. Careful with the Peon giants… they’ve crit me over 2K…. and with all my gear I have 3003 health… And that’s quiet a bit for a level 52 pure int.
Hope you’re an “offensive nuker” with FiRe imbue (the best imbue in the game hands down).
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:20 am |
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truez wrote: Is tis wit GT or w/o GT BTW GT is Gold Ticket 
w/o gt, duh
i have no real money to buy silk 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:21 am |
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GaS wrote: I'm level 52, 9 gap, farming at peons ... It's freaken awesome and I'm farming faster then my friend at bandit archers (level 16 SoM+5 bow)...
I'm using an SoS spear +5. I can't always one shot peon fighters and it usually takes a nuke and a lion shout to do it. In your case I’d go with a +5 spear. I’ve seen “Sword nukers” taking 3 nukes to kill these things.
Use armor (duh) and put as much +Hp and possible. I have +500 Health and when I’m getting mobbed by 3 peons and a giant its lights out. Careful with the Peon giants… they’ve crit me over 2K…. and with all my gear I have 3003 health… And that’s quiet a bit for a level 52 pure int.
Hope you’re an “offensive nuker” with FiRe imbue (the best imbue in the game hands down).
3003 hp, & u call it pimp, i have 4156 hp 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:42 am |
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Spear, armor. Dun take giants if no zerk. Nuke and ghost spear shld kill the mob
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:49 am |
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why don't you go to hashade? I've never seen the profit of going to penons, their spawns suck imo.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:52 am |
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NuclearSilo wrote: Use spear if u want 1 shot penons. But penon can 1 crit u  I'm only 47 Int and penons don't 1 crit me, and i have regular gear with a couple pieces +2 with stuff like int3 and str2 but nothing to great.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:08 pm |
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woutR wrote: why don't you go to hashade? I've never seen the profit of going to penons, their spawns suck imo.
Way tooooo many bots in Greece Server  near hashades.
This option is ruled out 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:10 pm |
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if you wanna farm penons i suggest at least being lvl 54
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:34 pm |
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I'm lvl 52 pure int spear and farming at penon's. I use a non-sos +5 spear (ruined my mag attack and still trying to fix it) but nuke and ghost spear or shout makes a fast kill. I wear garms ( cus I just hate everything else, but will be going pro soon ) and even with my crappy spear and vulnerable garms I'm not wasting too many pots. I'm usually getting hit for 600-700 hp crits are about 1500 or less.
No probs farming here and good luck ^^
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:00 pm |
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@sunmoon
i dont know how your doing that low of damage with a som +5. I have a sos +5 spear and i do the same damage and sometimes more. And the magic attack on that sword is about 100 or more higher magical damage then my spear. And also my magic balance is only at 97% and urs is at 110%  somethings wrong 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:15 pm |
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For pure int nukers, one possibility is to level up to around 55 and grind at sonars because:
- passive magic mobs deal low damage to int garments characters, and no dangerous giants to worry about!
- cold spectre stones give 4 x wind2 elements each!
- they drop 7D tier 2 items, which are worth more than the tier 1 drops from penons
- less bots to ks you
Well this is what I did. I stayed with hashades till 55 and moved to sonars directly. Skip penons completely. The sonar spawn rate is probably a bit lower than penons, but still very good so you'll never run out of things to kill.
 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:18 pm |
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sunmoon wrote: GaS wrote: I'm level 52, 9 gap, farming at peons ... It's freaken awesome and I'm farming faster then my friend at bandit archers (level 16 SoM+5 bow)...
I'm using an SoS spear +5. I can't always one shot peon fighters and it usually takes a nuke and a lion shout to do it. In your case I’d go with a +5 spear. I’ve seen “Sword nukers” taking 3 nukes to kill these things.
Use armor (duh) and put as much +Hp and possible. I have +500 Health and when I’m getting mobbed by 3 peons and a giant its lights out. Careful with the Peon giants… they’ve crit me over 2K…. and with all my gear I have 3003 health… And that’s quiet a bit for a level 52 pure int.
Hope you’re an “offensive nuker” with FiRe imbue (the best imbue in the game hands down). 3003 hp, & u call it pimp, i have 4156 hp 
LOL, i was thinking something was wrong...my pure INT L44 has 110% mag and 3005 hp. HP on gear and str points (think I may have str 22-25 on gear & +450HP) are a must have for spear int. And Bah, who needs armor? Live dangerously and go garm out there 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:23 pm |
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justaskphil wrote: And Bah, who needs armor? Live dangerously and go garm out there 
Amen to that!! Finally someone who thinks like i do 
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LadyOphelia wrote: justaskphil wrote: And Bah, who needs armor? Live dangerously and go garm out there  Amen to that!! Finally someone who thinks like i do 
armor will just slow down ur running & affect ur rate of kills, &  female garms
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:02 pm |
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ok can't fix myslef lol... i've found a sos shield 52+2 with bad white br 14(0%) for 20 million
and a spear +5 fully pimped 13mill and another +4 pimped for 9mill (the +4 have higher mag atatck than the +5)
I was wondering for wich one should I go, if i'm lucky I could pimp the shield and sell it for lot of money :S
and should I buy the 52+4 and try for +5? sinc the base is nice
I have aorund 20-30 weapon elixir and maybe 10-15 shield elixir, but I can buy some and work on stone too
any advice?
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egyptology wrote: ...im eating + typuing w/1 hand
oooh .. eating and typing wif 1 hand ... so what r u doing wif the other  ? (sorry, cant help it)
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