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djkelvz
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Post subject: fire bower's weakness? Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:50 am |
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i am a pure str fire/lightning bower. Had already come across ice swordsmen about my level... my problem is, we can't defeat each other! even with my upills and 12% frost / frostbite ring, i am still slowed and my devil bow is caught during charge-up... i get 2-4 hits before I can land one skill on him. right now, i am having second thoughts about fire for bow users.. i am starting to think ice is better for bowers.... need help! 
_________________ "Justice without Power is Empty; Power without Justice is Violence" - Miyamoto Musashi
Character: Col_Mustang
level: 1x Sword
build: Int-Hyb/Cold/Lightning
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Blaze
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:56 am |
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well now with the auto pot system, there is no such thing as freeze, burn, etc.. and pure str fire bow is a great character but fact is that blade and shield is the best in PvP, facts are facts..
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Asharon
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:30 am |
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Sword shield is the most annoying PvP for sure.
As an archer you need to knock your opponents off before the get to you. And with your str, and fire this sohould be possible. Either shit anti devil, beserker or strong spirit. Then hit of the arrow combos to hopefully finnish the oppnent.
This can be very difficult with a sword/shield build because if they block your main dmg atk your introuble.The frezee should be a big factor but, yes it will frezee you for the spilt second to stop your cast then the auto pill will go off.
You got a great build but its hard to beat a str sword shield period. You will win if you get all your atks to hit and they don't reach you, just hope for that 
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djkelvz
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:41 am |
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thanks for the tip! I thought I am missing something in my build.
By the way, is it also adviseable to get the ice wall for defense? I am uncertain if I'm going to add cold in my force mastery, I can get the ice wall. I'm pretty much tempted by its usefulness for a ranged attacker.
Some threads discussed about bowers bringing shield in their inventory and use fire shield to reduce the user's abnormal state. Will this really help (or possible) for a bower? 
_________________ "Justice without Power is Empty; Power without Justice is Violence" - Miyamoto Musashi
Character: Col_Mustang
level: 1x Sword
build: Int-Hyb/Cold/Lightning
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senshi
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:34 pm |
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Blaze wrote: well now with the auto pot system, there is no such thing as freeze, burn, etc.. and pure str fire bow is a great character but fact is that blade and shield is the best in PvP, facts are facts..
The problem is that freeze effect (not frostbite) will still cancel and charged-up moves/combo's. The few seconds it takes to redo the move can mean life or death in PvP
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theCoder
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:20 pm |
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double and triple arrow buffs have no wind-up. You have both around lvl 30+. Hot key both of them and just switch from one to the other, and of course, have autopot on. You are str-heavy, and might be able to wear down your opponent.
Aside from that, yes the pure str swordsman is better PvP.
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djkelvz
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:04 am |
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wow, i didn't think that you can use the 2-shot and 3-shot skills to have a 5-shot combo! (i initially thought that 2 will upgrade to 3-shots) --- noobie me!  Thanks a lot dude!
So does this mean I can use white hawk and black hawk at the same time? ( since white hawk is for buffs and black hawk is for attack)
_________________ "Justice without Power is Empty; Power without Justice is Violence" - Miyamoto Musashi
Character: Col_Mustang
level: 1x Sword
build: Int-Hyb/Cold/Lightning
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Smokin_Joe
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:19 am |
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Wait till you get 4 arrow combo and that burn lands that they arent expecting along with a few crits. Honestly there is too many people who play with a sword and shield and i can usually outrun them cause they have no skill whatsover. Honsetly they need to fix the shield thing like it is in lineage 2 and it should drop your dexterity or your run speed a lil or something since your carrying a heavy ass fcking shield. But there is NO NONOONNO ONNONOOONNNOOOO penelty in this game for a shield which is wierd cause in most RPGs there is a penelty small or big somewere. Oh well maybe they add somethign later and people who hide behind shields cry. I still win if my best attack doesnt get blocked cause its usually nukers hiding behind the shield. Dont worry mane fire bow is the pimp later im 53 and love mine. Besides your range is crazy at higher level. You will be able to get alot of attacks before they get close. Good luck.
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djkelvz
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:43 am |
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Thanks!  Now I can't wait to reach the higher levels! Can anyone confirm my thoughts on the abilities of the bowman:
1) the more your hit rate increases as your enemy's parry ratio decreases, your damage goes to the higher side of your damage range? I have been observing this (using lightning buff with white hawk then use fire buff - comparing this to white hawk + fire buffs alone), and its seems like it does.
2) The higher your level increases, so as your range? (I also observed that as I level throughout the game, my range goes farther. Anyway, I still need confirmation...maybe I am mistaken)
I hope you don't mind me asking some noob questions. 
_________________ "Justice without Power is Empty; Power without Justice is Violence" - Miyamoto Musashi
Character: Col_Mustang
level: 1x Sword
build: Int-Hyb/Cold/Lightning
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dom
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:58 pm |
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Smokin_Joe wrote: But there is NO NONOONNO ONNONOOONNNOOOO penelty in this game for a shield which is wierd cause in most RPGs there is a penelty small or big somewere.
As far as I've noticed for all online games, usually the penalty for carrying a shield is using 1 handed weapons (thus less damage).
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Smokin_Joe
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:43 pm |
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Lineage lowers dexterity which has to do with run speed and evasion. Which makes sense cause shields weigh alot but they block alot too although in lineage it NEVER completely blocks an attack just lowers it alot. I dont know they should maybe do something about the shields cause its lame to fight for 414324 minutes and not be able to kill some people who have shields and they cant kill you even if they crit with all their moves. Why play a pvp based game hiding behind a shield?
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Avalanche
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:20 am |
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Bow + Ice = Pwnage.
Done deal.
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Smokin_Joe
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:42 am |
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LOL what level is your archer? I OWN Ice archers all the time in pvp and they are like wtf why you never freeze? HMMM NICE JEWLS
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:19 am |
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Smokin_Joe wrote: Why play a pvp based game hiding behind a shield? Quote: not be able to kill some people who have shield
You answered yourself, staying alive is an important goal in PvP...
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