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 Post subject: Ice/Lightning Nuker
PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:30 pm 
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Is it possible to build such kind of Nuker? ATM i'm almost LVL 18, Have Ice & Lightning @ 15, Force too and i'm an pure INT archer... Can anyone help me?

Another Silly Question; how does the penetrating bow attack work?


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it is possible for an ice/light nuker, but fire hits alot more than ice, so most people use fire/light. if your using bow you already have ranged so you don't really need nukes

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What build do you suggest, skills etc.


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you should reroll on venice with that build and join Dem's guild (what can i say i like healers).

Personally I like your build force/light/cold no weapon skills. I think it's more useful as a support nuker than a pure nuker.

from what i heard at hight lvl dungons even nukes can get 1 shotted so u don't really wanna out damage your tank anyways.

and in PVP heals can also go a long way plus u still have lightning nukes (possibly the hardest hitting nukes in the game :D ).

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I also have Weapon skills :oops: Should I quit one tree? 4 is a bit much I think... I'm thinking of a tactic;

First you hit your enemy with Ice, he slows down and begins to run at you. Then you begin to hit your NMY with Electric... This mean I will have to stop The Ice main skill (first, the River thingie) caus' it will take 6 seconds, and that is just too long, by the time you start to hit with lightning, they have reached you.

I will stop the ICE main force, probably start the Ice Nuke...

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Hit your NMY two/three times with Ice first skill.
He's frostbiten or even Frozen now,
Start to hit him soooo hard with Elektricity Nuke!!!


Is this a good idea?


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I am Int, Fire, Lightning, Spear and sword. Sounds like a lot but I am 33 with 1200 left over SP's... I took sword and spear to 20 only. Used sword til 14 or so then did spear til 30 the back to sword/shield. Once you get your nukes having a shield is great.

Fire nuke plus Flow Piercing buff from lighting plus lightning nuke right after the fire nuke and even cons are dead before they hit you.

Spear to level 20 also gives you the passive hp buff level 2 which is nice. You get magic resist buff from fire, dodge and parry buffs from lightning... use fire umbue around level 6 for when you need to hit with your spear/sword... it's an amazing build.

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so I'm guessing that's a no on the reroll?? :(

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Can anyone else give some more comments?

Everywhere else I read about Blade/Glavie Fire/Lightning Nukers. Is my idea even possible? A Bow Ice/Lightning nuker to slow somebody down first, then nuke him down all the way witg Lightning...


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A pure int bow makes no sense.

1. If you are pure int, your nukes will hit harder than any bow weapon skill. Thus, there's no reason to use weapon (bow) skills over Force (lightening/fire) skills.

2. Nukes are ranged attacks just like a bow. So the advantage of the bows ranged attack is almost completely lost over a nuker. I say almost cause the bow does have a little bit more range - but why would you sacrifice much greater damage for just a little bit more range?

3. Compared to either spear or sword, the magic attack damage of a bow is weak. Compared to spear it's really not even close, spear does way more magic damage - and here the defense is theoretically equal. Compared to sword, bow magic attack provides no advantage, while the sword user has a shield, which not only provides a lot more defense, it also has the chance for a block.

These are the reasons why many consider an pure int bow to be the worst build in the game . . . it just isn't logical.


But have no fear!! You're still relatively low level, so you have plenty of time to correct things. Here's what I would do:

1. Drop bow for spear or sword. Do not put anymore sp into bow skills. Since you're pure int, you don't want to put a lot of sp into weapon skills anyway, so this isn't really that bad . .. it will be a relatively easy transition and won't cost a bundle of sp.

2. If you really want to stick with bow . . . errr, start over and go pure str.

Besides that, your plan sounds just fine. Keep Cold and Light as your primary masteries. Being a pure int, you mainly want weapon skills for the passives - and whether or not you can get them is a function of how much sp you got. If you go force, you really need to keep it up - aka make it, one of your primary masteries - which may be hard if you already have cold and light as main masteries. But that just really depends on how much sp you got.


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I think i'll go for sword, and keep bow for mobs or so... I don't really like spear, cause to many people use it. Now can anyone suggest me what to do? Which skills to use for sword? Keep garment?

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I've looked at the stickied Blade Guide but since this is a pure STR blade I don't get really further by it. Can someone explain what skills of Bicheon to learn, what ice/lightning/force skills to learn, what imbue's are, how much SP i should farm before continue... I know this is almost a question for a private-guide, but please help, I need it ATM


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you can put your sword masteries up to 20
this will give you like eh the passive lvl2 / knockdown lvl1 / stab lvl1

for my int char i have sword up to 30, just for the 4hit and 5hit combo and lvl3 passive...
right now i'm building another char on xian...strength though :)

but in a while i'll be playing my int char again....bringing masteries up to 60 (all the chains + passives)...cold tree maxed together with light tree (physical defense - duh - with nukes )

atm lvl 4x with int though..

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I just realized, PURE INT ARCHER? IMO you should just give up now, bow is meant to be a pure str or str hybrid weapon. You will fall far behind and your character will not be strong at all. Level 18 is not high at all and you can get there in under 2 days if you try really hard.

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antix wrote:
I just realized, PURE INT ARCHER? IMO you should just give up now, bow is meant to be a pure str or str hybrid weapon. You will fall far behind and your character will not be strong at all. Level 18 is not high at all and you can get there in under 2 days if you try really hard.


Bull.. Don't give up now, you're fine. If you are doing Ice/Bow, pure int, or hybrid-int is FINE! Don't believe the hype. I OFTEN take out players higher level than me.

Having more INT will make your nukes stronger. If you are Ice AND Bow AND have strong nukes, you shouldn't even be getting touched... they should be dead before they can hit you.


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 Post subject: Re: Ice/Lightning Nuker
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makisquirrel wrote:
Another Silly Question; how does the penetrating bow attack work


if your attack a mob and another mob is in the way of the path of the arrow it will get hit. pretty cool huh?

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I don't think i'm going to give up. I will switch to Bicheon tho. Get masteries of Bicheon to thirty. Then stop with that, and start nuking! Is this possible?

Then it becomes an Bicheon/Pure Int/Ice/Elektricity/Force Nuker...


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makisquirrel wrote:
I don't think i'm going to give up. I will switch to Bicheon tho. Get masteries of Bicheon to thirty. Then stop with that, and start nuking! Is this possible?

Then it becomes an Bicheon/Pure Int/Ice/Elektricity/Force Nuker...

remember you've got a max of 300 masteries...so you better think in advance of which skills you're planning to max out...

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