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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:23 am 
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myself... i have a lot of problems... right now i am addicted to heroin, i dont shoot it up, i smoke it, but yea its really not good, i have been doing it every day for about 2.5 months now, and i'm to the point where it would be impossible for me to stop without some perscriptions, i really dont recommend doing this drug... anyone thinking about it should think again. please take my words into consideration... you dont want to be addicted to this shit...

it takes over, you need it, and it makes you spend crazy amounts of money... my habit costs me about 140 dollars a week.

i wanted to post this not to brag, because this is not something to brag about, but in stead to try to help anyone that might be thinking about trying this drug... or any really addictive drug for that matter. It isnt worth it...

it causes a lot of depression, and when you dont have it, you pretty much cant do anything. it controls your life. your body NEEDS it, and you feel like complete shit without it, you don't even feel like getting up out of bed. please people, don't make my mistakes, learn from me.

anyway, i hope i can help some people by posting this.


WOW :: PsYch008 is very strong of you to post it and I is not need for make it so small text.. Hope you can seartch help for it really , And remember what I said before. :!:

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im addicted to ****. (cigarette) marijuana and meth didnt kicked in very well to me. so yeah. im lucky im just addicted to smoke. well maybe someday i will try to reduce it.. just maybe.. :)

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yea i know, i need to want to help myself... thats the issue, im fighting with myself, i know i should stop but i just dont feel like it. its really kinda shitty...

yea man, if you have an addictive personality and you know it, dont ever do any addictive drugs... you would be farked.

It's not really chemical addiction you need to worry about with me (although I used to be addicted to caffeine), but thanks for the thought.

As to wanting to quit, have you tried visiting some propaganda scare sites? That what turned me into a vegan for quite awhile (which I still want to do again sometime)

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what are your other mental troubles? if you care to tell.

Well, diagnosed, ADHD and Bipolar disorder.

Undiagnosed, I think I have Aspergers, and probably a few other things I wouldn't have an idea of, maybe depression?

I think the best description of my problems would probably be "lonely selfish perverted asshole, who would say he cares about no one other than himself, but doesn't really care about himself either so that wouldn't be accurate"


I am also ADD. No i havent tried any scare sites, but the problem with me is... i just wouldnt believe them at all and they would probably just make me laugh...

and as for your "lonely selfish perverted asshole...etc" thing, that fits me pretty well also. lol.

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call me what ever u want it does not offened me i whished u well even if that wasnt seen from my msg im sry if u missunderstood it. Its great tought that you had to share your misforutnate expriance whit all otheres here i seriosly hope u get over that" right now i dont want to quit"thing unfortunatly this isnt one of those thing that "its never too late for"
i hope u come to your sences and start getting off....beffore its too late


well, why did you blow up the lettering when i specifically said i was making it small to not offend anyone. don't be a dimwhit and i won't call you one. alright. thanks for the good wishes.

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Unfortunately heroin isn't a drug you can just stop taking. It doesn't work that way.

Personally I'm not addicted to anything. I've never been diagnosed with any conditions, and I only occasionally smoke weed or cigarettes, or drink.


This is very true, you can't just stop... well, you CAN... it just hurts like hell and puts you through hell...

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well man ...i really think you need to take care of this...ive never been addicted to drugs so i cant say much but i really think you need to do somthing...i relate it to this- i was getting really depressed and i said yea w/e ill get over it and then my mom actually did somthing she took me to my family physician and it was the short 10 min convo we had that changed my life forever. he said that they cared and just explained everything in a very helpfull way...then 2 or 3 days later i woke up and i thought i cant do this shit anymore **** this life ect.~~~ and i thought to that 10 min convo and im like this isnt how it should be so i went to my mom and im like this isnt working i need help! ...i got put in a behavorial hospital and it saved my life!....i dont know if that story helped but all im trying to say is dont take it upon yourself to try somthing this difficult let others help you.


thanks for the advice, but i know myself pretty well, and if i don't stop on my own, then i won't stop. Sending me somewhere will not help unless i want to go there. It may get to that point if i decide i want to quit, and cannot do it on my own.

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If you kicked meth you can kick heroine bro, especially if you don't shoot.

My mom shot up. I found a fucken syringe with a needle in it under my driver seat when I was cleaning out my car. She had borrowed it a couple days before. She stole all the change I had in my cup holder(easily over $20)...and left somethin in my car that coulda got me incredibly farked over.

Not to mention I could have poked myself with it when I was reaching under the seat - who knows how many people that crazy lady has shared needles with.

God talking about it makes me so pissed at her.


yea bro, i know i CAN quit... its just wanting to... i have always been a fan of pain killers, and other downers, and H is the king of downers so obviously i am going to like it a lot. I need to get to the point of WANTING to quit. I'm sure it will be soon.

Yea, i have shot up before, but only once and it was in another state, i said to myself "i will go down to san fran and get shooting up out of my system and then i will forget about it and never do it again" and it worked.

im sorry to hear about your mom bro, she is clean now right? if so tell her great job, cuz shooting that shit up is almost impossisble to drop. it is basically the best feeling in the entire world... one of my friends used to shoot up, and he used to say " the feeling was so great, it outweighed any other feeling in the world, i didnt even care about sex because the feeling of shooting up was 10x better." and i tend to agree because the one weekend when i did shoot up, it was fuckin insane man... seriously unlike any other feeling in the world. but i havent done it since simply because i know if i did i would be farked for life.

i personally do not believe you can be addicted to weed, i used to smoke over an eighth a day, and then i just stopped. with no side effects... anything you can just stop and have no withdrawls, i dont consider that being addicted. if i were to just stop doing what i am doing now... i would not be able to get out of bed for a week. THAT'S addiction. and it isnt very fun.

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Well honestly psych, whenever I knew I was having too much of something and needed to kick it, I'd have too much of it at once. Like pizza. Eating most of a large pizza by yourself will get you to swear it off for a LONG time, and in your case hopefully there wouldn't be any desire or pressure to try it again. But then, ODing on pepperoni is just painful, not fatal, so that probably isn't a good idea.

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Well honestly psych, whenever I knew I was having too much of something and needed to kick it, I'd have too much of it at once. Like pizza. Eating most of a large pizza by yourself will get you to swear it off for a LONG time, and in your case hopefully there wouldn't be any desire or pressure to try it again. But then, ODing on pepperoni is just painful, not fatal, so that probably isn't a good idea.


well... i dont think that idea would work in my situation... dont think i would OD necessarily... but i would get REALLY high and it would probably just increase my tolerance and make me need to do more daily and thus increase the amount of money i would need to spend each month. and that is definitely not what i need. but yea, that works on foods for sure. i did it with ice cream, and i didnt like ice cream at all for almost a year.

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you know since noone can make you quit unfortunately ill pull up the numbers for you

$140 a week
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$560 a month
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$6720 a year

dude... if your willing to spent $6720 a year on somthing that you will never have anything to show for then please dont make threads about having to move out because your loosing your job. Im not trying to be a dick im trying to show you how pointless it is. All of us care about you alot and hate to hear about you ruining yourself with somthing this pointless*no pun intended*. If you wont take my advice do the math your wasting a ton of money and will never have anything to show.

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you know since noone can make you quit unfortunately ill pull up the numbers for you

$140 a week
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$560 a month
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$6720 a year

dude... if your willing to spent $6720 a year on somthing that you will never have anything to show for then please dont make threads about having to move out because your loosing your job. Im not trying to be a dick im trying to show you how pointless it is. All of us care about you alot and hate to hear about you ruining yourself with somthing this pointless*no pun intended*. If you wont take my advice do the math your wasting a ton of money and will never have anything to show.


trust me, i know man. but i still pay my billz, if i lose my job i lose my place. thats just how it is. i know i waste a lot of money, but i still pay all my bills too, i just have to have a job.

and actually i think i spend even more than that... and thats only one thing... i buy other useless things too...

i probably spend around 8000 dollars a year on useless crap. maybe more.

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PsYch008 wrote:
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you know since noone can make you quit unfortunately ill pull up the numbers for you

$140 a week
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$560 a month
thats
$6720 a year

dude... if your willing to spent $6720 a year on somthing that you will never have anything to show for then please dont make threads about having to move out because your loosing your job. Im not trying to be a dick im trying to show you how pointless it is. All of us care about you alot and hate to hear about you ruining yourself with somthing this pointless*no pun intended*. If you wont take my advice do the math your wasting a ton of money and will never have anything to show.


trust me, i know man. but i still pay my billz, if i lose my job i lose my place. thats just how it is. i know i waste a lot of money, but i still pay all my bills too, i just have to have a job.

and actually i think i spend even more than that... and thats only one thing... i buy other useless things too...

i probably spend around 8000 dollars a year on useless crap. maybe more.


well ive tried but failed...so..if you spend that much mabey you could go without useless shit for a while and buy me a new car/fix my current one?

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exality wrote:
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you know since noone can make you quit unfortunately ill pull up the numbers for you

$140 a week
thats
$560 a month
thats
$6720 a year

dude... if your willing to spent $6720 a year on somthing that you will never have anything to show for then please dont make threads about having to move out because your loosing your job. Im not trying to be a dick im trying to show you how pointless it is. All of us care about you alot and hate to hear about you ruining yourself with somthing this pointless*no pun intended*. If you wont take my advice do the math your wasting a ton of money and will never have anything to show.


trust me, i know man. but i still pay my billz, if i lose my job i lose my place. thats just how it is. i know i waste a lot of money, but i still pay all my bills too, i just have to have a job.

and actually i think i spend even more than that... and thats only one thing... i buy other useless things too...

i probably spend around 8000 dollars a year on useless crap. maybe more.


well ive tried but failed...so..if you spend that much mabey you could go without useless shit for a while and buy me a new car/fix my current one?


i wish i could go without, but that is the whole issue in this thread. :wink:

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you know since noone can make you quit unfortunately ill pull up the numbers for you

$140 a week
thats
$560 a month
thats
$6720 a year

dude... if your willing to spent $6720 a year on somthing that you will never have anything to show for then please dont make threads about having to move out because your loosing your job. Im not trying to be a dick im trying to show you how pointless it is. All of us care about you alot and hate to hear about you ruining yourself with somthing this pointless*no pun intended*. If you wont take my advice do the math your wasting a ton of money and will never have anything to show.


trust me, i know man. but i still pay my billz, if i lose my job i lose my place. thats just how it is. i know i waste a lot of money, but i still pay all my bills too, i just have to have a job.

and actually i think i spend even more than that... and thats only one thing... i buy other useless things too...

i probably spend around 8000 dollars a year on useless crap. maybe more.


well ive tried but failed...so..if you spend that much mabey you could go without useless shit for a while and buy me a new car/fix my current one?


i wish i could go without, but that is the whole issue in this thread. :wink:


well then edit ur foirs post and say your also addicted to useless shit...and you hate exality!

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Rather than thinking about how the money is being wasted, think about other things you could spend it on that you would enjoy. Or rather, think about how much you're actually spending

That's enough for at least three brand new video games a week.

At least six brand new movies, every week.

You could get a new computer twice a month, just for the hell of it.

If you're thrifty and creative, that's enough for a date every night of the week; less so and still four or five a week.

You could buy a premium ticket for a new person on the forum every single day

You could eat out at a nice restaurant every day

You can buy a Nintendo DS every week and give them to charity (toys for tots, for example)

You can help get a friend, or a friend's kid, through quite a bit of college expenses.

You can sign up for a new magazine subscription every day.

You could almost certainly afford classes to learn a new skill, like a language, from a community college or a private teacher.

Hell, you could buy two perfectly good used cars a year, and give them to people that need them.

Really, if 140$ a week doesn't seem like a lot of money after that, that there's nothing you'd rather do with it, I don't think anyone can help you.

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there are plenty of things i would rather do with the money... but i have issues with drugs, and i have for a while. if i were to add up all the money i have spent on drugs, it would make most people here cry.

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there are plenty of things i would rather do with the money... but i have issues with drugs, and i have for a while. if i were to add up all the money i have spent on drugs, it would make most people here cry.


Then get help. You know it's bad for you, everyone around you knows it's bad for you, and some of us could use money for a new car :banghead:

Seriously though, there are people that want to help you, just get in contact with them. A little bit of effort can go a long way.

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there are plenty of things i would rather do with the money... but i have issues with drugs, and i have for a while. if i were to add up all the money i have spent on drugs, it would make most people here cry.


Then get help. You know it's bad for you, everyone around you knows it's bad for you, and some of us could use money for a new car :banghead:

Seriously though, there are people that want to help you, just get in contact with them. A little bit of effort can go a long way.


i kinda keep my habit secret. i know that if i told my parents then they would end up getting me off it. but myself is fighting with myself right now about what to do.

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1. linkin park sucks(if its their song breaking the habit)
and 2. 200mg tesco ibuprofen OMG their like minty tictacs! exept they dotn shrink as fast and double up as a painkiller, i can go though 6 a day :)

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i kinda keep my habit secret. i know that if i told my parents then they would end up getting me off it. but myself is fighting with myself right now about what to do.


Keeping it secret won't help. They're your parents, trust me, you did tons of stupid shit as a kid, and they still love you. They won't think you're some horrible monster- everyone has problems.

Drug centers especially- why would they think you're so horrible, and not the dozens of other people? At least, hopefully, you come in out of free will, and not because you had an unfortunate run in with the law... or the emergency room. There are people out there that are willing to help you, you just have to tell them. Trust me, anyone who works with drug addicts as a career has seen FAR worse than you, and will probably be glad you got in before it became something worse.

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DONT TELL YOUR PARENTS ANYTHING, THEY MAKE IT WORSE, THEY JUST NAG! 3 3x overdose dont kill you with painkillers, but if its real drugs dont do it.
dont tell your parents, remember youve got a doctor that can adivse a councellor if you need 1. councellor before parents or youll just make it worse.

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DONT TELL YOUR PARENTS ANYTHING, THEY MAKE IT WORSE, THEY JUST NAG! 3 3x overdose dont kill you with painkillers, but if its real drugs dont do it.
dont tell your parents, remember youve got a doctor that can adivse a councellor if you need 1. councellor before parents or youll just make it worse.


That's horrible advice. Parents almost always care more about you than anyone else- and besides, from the sounds of it, he's more than supporting himself, I highly doubt that they would nag him.

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DONT TELL YOUR PARENTS ANYTHING, THEY MAKE IT WORSE, THEY JUST NAG! 3 3x overdose dont kill you with painkillers, but if its real drugs dont do it.
dont tell your parents, remember youve got a doctor that can adivse a councellor if you need 1. councellor before parents or youll just make it worse.


That's horrible advice. Parents almost always care more about you than anyone else- and besides, from the sounds of it, he's more than supporting himself, I highly doubt that they would nag him.

that is so true....as for the guy above you...id have to say he is 14 just getting done with puberty feeling high and mighty thinks he can do everything himself but dosent and makes his parents do it all for him

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feba wrote:
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DONT TELL YOUR PARENTS ANYTHING, THEY MAKE IT WORSE, THEY JUST NAG! 3 3x overdose dont kill you with painkillers, but if its real drugs dont do it.
dont tell your parents, remember youve got a doctor that can adivse a councellor if you need 1. councellor before parents or youll just make it worse.


That's horrible advice. Parents almost always care more about you than anyone else- and besides, from the sounds of it, he's more than supporting himself, I highly doubt that they would nag him.


yea man, im 21 years old and have been living on my own since 18. I have great credit, never late on my bills, and i OWN my own condo. I support myself and my gf. My parents wouldnt nag me. lol...

my parents would definitely help me, i just am not ready to quit yet, i know i should, and i want to... but like i said, i am fighting with myself. it is a great feeling when i have shit, and like i said i have always been into pain killers... and when i say painkillers, im not talking about weak ass ibuprofen lol... that shit doesnt do anything at all to me...

i started with Vicaden, moved to oxycontin, and then into H. Those are painkillers, over the counter painkillers are sugar pillz. rofl. i could eat a whole bottle of tylenol or advil and all it would do is make my stomach hurt. those over the counter pain meds seriously dont do shit to me at all. my tolerance for pain killers is sky high.

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DONT TELL YOUR PARENTS ANYTHING, THEY MAKE IT WORSE, THEY JUST NAG! 3 3x overdose dont kill you with painkillers, but if its real drugs dont do it.
dont tell your parents, remember youve got a doctor that can adivse a councellor if you need 1. councellor before parents or youll just make it worse.


How you can say this stupid crap ..be happy you have parens who care about you .when they are gone you dont have any go to if you have some problem and want some help . So is not so painfull if parens nag .be happy you have them.

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That's horrible advice. Parents almost always care more about you than anyone else- and besides, from the sounds of it, he's more than supporting himself, I highly doubt that they would nag him.


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DONT TELL YOUR PARENTS ANYTHING, THEY MAKE IT WORSE, THEY JUST NAG! 3 3x overdose dont kill you with painkillers, but if its real drugs dont do it.
dont tell your parents, remember youve got a doctor that can adivse a councellor if you need 1. councellor before parents or youll just make it worse.


How you can say this stupid crap ..be happy you have parens who care about you .when they are gone you dont have any go to if you have some problem and want some help . So is not so painfull if parens nag .be happy you have them.

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That's horrible advice. Parents almost always care more about you than anyone else- and besides, from the sounds of it, he's more than supporting himself, I highly doubt that they would nag him.


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he's just a little kid. lol. No little kids are respectful to their parents these days, when their parents try to help them they think they are nagging them. Man, when i was younger i listened to my parents and did what they said, yea i might not have liked it, but i didnt say shit to them and i just did it. If i talked back i got my ass kicked.

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DONT TELL YOUR PARENTS ANYTHING, THEY MAKE IT WORSE, THEY JUST NAG! 3 3x overdose dont kill you with painkillers, but if its real drugs dont do it.
dont tell your parents, remember youve got a doctor that can adivse a councellor if you need 1. councellor before parents or youll just make it worse.


How you can say this stupid crap ..be happy you have parens who care about you .when they are gone you dont have any go to if you have some problem and want some help . So is not so painfull if parens nag .be happy you have them.

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That's horrible advice. Parents almost always care more about you than anyone else- and besides, from the sounds of it, he's more than supporting himself, I highly doubt that they would nag him.


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he's just a little kid. lol. No little kids are respectful to their parents these days, when their parents try to help them they think they are nagging them. Man, when i was younger i listened to my parents and did what they said, yea i might not have liked it, but i didnt say shit to them and i just did it. If i talked back i got my ass kicked.


Yea true , Better they listen and be happy they have a parent to go to.

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Yes allow me to enforce that statement, you all need to be extremely grateful you have parents to go to at all.

I don't go to my parents for help, they come to me for help. :roll:

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