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Post subject: Euro warrior thread--questions, opinions, advice, etc. Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:28 am |
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What has the SRO community thought about the warrior (preferably want people's opinions of people who have a warrior or are playing one)?
How are these classes:
1-handed sword?
2-handed sword?
Dual weapon axe?
Warrior any good of a character?
What are the pros and cons of each build?
There a difference between 2-h sword and dual weapon axe?
What job (hunter, thief, trader) are they good at?
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Which warrior class is better in PvP (solo and group) and PvE (solo and group)?
Lots of questions that need answers.
Thanks for your replies.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:41 am |
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Well, I haven't tried this yet. Why don't you just sp farm a little and have BOTH 2 handed and 2 handed sword skills. So that means using dual weapons like glavie/blade.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:46 am |
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whowhowho wrote: Well, I haven't tried this yet. Why don't you just sp farm a little and have BOTH 2 handed and 2 handed sword skills. So that means using dual weapons like glavie/blade.
I don't know how the different warrior types are in the long run. Right now I am pure int warlock.
I don't know if it is worth it to start a warrior.
Need the questions answered from an experienced warrior or knows a lot about them  .
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:54 am |
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I had play 1 handed sword shield before. Hehe
1 handed sword - almost similar to chinese blader, IMO, w/o KD.
Warrior any good of a character?
Of course, in terms of def, hp and ability to KD, ability to dull, ability to have fast attacking speed. (three variables of warrior in this case)
What are the pros and cons of each build?
You mean pros and cons of each warrior classes?
1 handed s/s: Have a high def which able to kill giants without the help of party members. Even with aggro mob around here, sure no problem with that.
2 handed: So far I know is able to KD.
Dual axe: So far I know is their attacking speed is nice.
Which is the BEST warrior build?
The one that suited you. (Don't ask me, which is, ... cos obviously, the one that really suited you the most)
There a difference between 2-h sword and dual weapon axe?
Of course by general knowledge we know that,
2handed is slow in attacking whereas axes is fast.
Does a warrior deal better overall damage than a warlock?
Oh .. you are comparing one main class with one sub class, that doesn't sound logic to me. I can't really answer your question here.
What job (hunter, thief, trader) are they good at?
In terms of warrior, we have a tanker here, we have damage dealer here, and we have half the dealer and tanker. So figure it out yourself.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:02 am |
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How bout the PvP and PvE aspect of every type (1h,2h,dual axe)?
Can warriors kill any other class relatively easily in PvP?
Which type deals more damage--2h sword or dual axe?
Lookin for people's opinions.
Let's make this topic the main warrior thread!
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:18 am |
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Can warriors kill any other class relatively easily in PvP?
Depends on the skillfulness of a player, weapon/armor stat and such. I will not said "relatively easily" due to the fact that euro has massive pot delay, afterall it's depends on who cast the skills first, that is able to kill the opponent, especially meeting with a wizard, 50:50 chances to survive there.
Which type deals more damage--2h sword or dual axe?
2 handed sword, that's definitely.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:45 am |
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DeShin wrote: Can warriors kill any other class relatively easily in PvP? Depends on the skillfulness of a player, weapon/armor stat and such. I will not said "relatively easily" due to the fact that euro has massive pot delay, afterall it's depends on who cast the skills first, that is able to kill the opponent, especially meeting with a wizard, 50:50 chances to survive there.
Which type deals more damage--2h sword or dual axe? 2 handed sword, that's definitely.
So if a 2h sword deals dmg first, then the 2h sword will kill the wizard? and vice versa?
Does this "wizard" statement (first person attacks wins) apply to all classes when fighting against a warrior? Warrior vs. warrior a pot battle (or would 2h beat dual axe,etc.)?
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:05 am |
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One important point is that Euro char are built for GROUP play... most pvp is 1v1, so Euro char and their pot delay really weakens them.
If you want a Euro pvp, go rogue. Xbow makes lvling easy, daggers provide all the strategic pvp advantage you could want (i.e. stealth, speed, backstab)
A good friend of mine plays a 2hd warrior
He does ok damage, but I can equal his strike with my "nuke."
Magic users complain about the KD from 2hd warriors. They prefer the axe and its stun so they can still cast. There are very few 1hd warriors, since they have the lowest damage output.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:26 am |
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well..i'm a 2h warrior.I can tank quite well but i'm easy to ks..since i hit very slow.Since you're slow and you have sword,so the range is not that big you're not gonna lvl to fast solo(if you have moving march ,that's another story).
I deal good dmg..in pvp if i hit first i have chances since i can stun with the sprint assault and KD.Not the best in pvp.The slow speed pisses me off in pvp.if a wiz(lvl around mine) or something freezes me from a good distance i'm as good as dead(without pills but even with them they slow me down a little) since i move slow and the freezing makes me move even slower and euro's from what i know can't have ice immunity.And the pot delay makes all euro's handicaped at pvp.
Party grinding.what would the pure ints do against a party mob that's like they're lvl ? If they don't have a warrior or at least a..rogue they're as good as dead ,not to talk if they grind in a high spawn spot.With the vital increase the 2h sword warrior is the second best tanker(after the s/s)..even without they're still the 2nd.
My rating for the warrior(2handed at least ) :
Solo grinding : 6.5/10
PVP: 6.5/10
Party grinding : 9/10
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:22 am |
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paths wrote: So if a 2h sword deals dmg first, then the 2h sword will kill the wizard? and vice versa? Does this "wizard" statement (first person attacks wins) apply to all classes when fighting against a warrior? Warrior vs. warrior a pot battle (or would 2h beat dual axe,etc.)? You sound like you are looking more into PvP than PvE. If this is the case, I will suggest you to play chinese chars, it's alot easier to fight since split-second pot delay and have so much skills to choose from.
If it's still euro, as what Atsuten said, so far to my preference, I will pick Rogue as PvP master due to the attacking speed, especially dagger.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:48 pm |
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DeShin wrote: paths wrote: So if a 2h sword deals dmg first, then the 2h sword will kill the wizard? and vice versa? Does this "wizard" statement (first person attacks wins) apply to all classes when fighting against a warrior? Warrior vs. warrior a pot battle (or would 2h beat dual axe,etc.)? You sound like you are looking more into PvP than PvE. If this is the case, I will suggest you to play chinese chars, it's alot easier to fight since split-second pot delay and have so much skills to choose from. If it's still euro, as what Atsuten said, so far to my preference, I will pick Rogue as PvP master due to the attacking speed, especially dagger.
I personally have never cared for the chinese characters. However, I like euro due to the skills  .
Rogues any good at tanking?
Good at killing solo in PvE?
Have a good attack damage?
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:34 pm |
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Rogues any good at tanking?
Yes and no.
Yes, they are full str, so lots of hp.
No, since they can sacrifice defense to gain offense. They have a skill which is described like taunt, but says "can NOT target monsters"... WTF?
Good at killing solo in PvE?
Dagger? not so much. Xbow? OH YEAH. Kinda slow until lvl 20, but with the off/def exchange skill, you become a physical nuker. Probably kill mobs your lvl in 1 hit.
Have a good attack damage?
Like I said, not so much until lvl 20, but then you become a physical nuker. For pvp, daggers offer speed, stealth, and backstab. If you fight a Str build, switch to xbow FTW. Poison helps, too.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:05 pm |
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Atsuten wrote: Rogues any good at tanking? Yes and no. Yes, they are full str, so lots of hp. No, since they can sacrifice defense to gain offense. They have a skill which is described like taunt, but says "can NOT target monsters"... WTF?
Good at killing solo in PvE? Dagger? not so much. Xbow? OH YEAH. Kinda slow until lvl 20, but with the off/def exchange skill, you become a physical nuker. Probably kill mobs your lvl in 1 hit.
Have a good attack damage? Like I said, not so much until lvl 20, but then you become a physical nuker. For pvp, daggers offer speed, stealth, and backstab. If you fight a Str build, switch to xbow FTW. Poison helps, too.
Thanks for the info.
For now, I will stick to my warlock but I will have my options open for a second char.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:07 pm |
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First of all, I'm a Dual Axe Warrior
Warrior any good of a character?
-Yeah, I'm getting quite well with my warrior.
What are the pros and cons of each build?
-If you mean the difference between weapons: 1-h sword has the highest defense, but lowest damage. 2-h sword has highest damage while poorest defense. Last, but not least, dual axe is somewhere between the two. Quite good defense and attack
Which is the BEST warrior build?
-Depends totally on your playing style
There a difference between 2-h sword and dual weapon axe?
Surely. 2-h sword is slower while dual axe is faster to attack, but IMHO dual axe is a bit better in defense.
Does a warrior deal better overall damage than a warlock?
-Dunno really. I don't think so.
What job (hunter, thief, trader) are they good at?
-IMHO trader. Thief should deal loads of damage. Maybe hunter because of the loads of HP[/b]
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:27 pm |
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Slaughterman wrote: First of all, I'm a Dual Axe Warrior
Warrior any good of a character? -Yeah, I'm getting quite well with my warrior.
What are the pros and cons of each build? -If you mean the difference between weapons: 1-h sword has the highest defense, but lowest damage. 2-h sword has highest damage while poorest defense. Last, but not least, dual axe is somewhere between the two. Quite good defense and attack
Which is the BEST warrior build? -Depends totally on your playing style
There a difference between 2-h sword and dual weapon axe? Surely. 2-h sword is slower while dual axe is faster to attack, but IMHO dual axe is a bit better in defense.
Does a warrior deal better overall damage than a warlock? -Dunno really. I don't think so.
What job (hunter, thief, trader) are they good at? -IMHO trader. Thief should deal loads of damage. Maybe hunter because of the loads of HP[/b]
Can dual axe do well in PvP (solo and group) or solo & group in PvE?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:02 am |
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only good warrior in pvp is 2h sword. rest are like bladers (deal literally no dmg)
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:19 am |
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RichardDawkins12 wrote: only good warrior in pvp is 2h sword. rest are like bladers (deal literally no dmg)
Therefore implying dual axe?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:58 am |
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Well I have a warrior/rogue on venice so I think i could help.
Warrior 2h- They're good in pvp and I believe they're best job would be hunter for the kd would be good to suprise a hunter or trader and they down attack increase could finish them off easily. Though in party's, due to early set stereo-types and how alot of the skills have kd, usually they're the least liked tank. Also they do the best damage of the warriors but with the worst defense. Dual axe- They're also pretty good in pvp and I think they would be best as a trader because of they're high hp, better defense then 2h and stun they can easily take out they're own thieves or possible a player thief. In party's they are great tanks for their medium defense, medium offense, and stun which party members love for it can't attack and unlike kd the wizard can still attack. They have the second best damage and second best defense of the warriors.
Rogue Dual Dagger- Great in pvp for their high damage output and stelth (plus stealth damage bonus when in stealth for daggers only) and I think they're great as a trader and thief due to they're high damage and high hp (and stelth for thief). They're also good in party for they can tank (if needed) or do damage and have speed increase increase incase party member needs help. They have great damage but for a lack of defense. X Bow- Good in pvp when starting from afar and stealth can help get some distance and I believe they're best for nearly all jobs because of they're high range, high hp and good damage plus kb. In party they're good for pulling and doing decent damage. Nice damage, high range, knock back but not the best defense when up close.
Thats my opinions on those builds, hope it helps.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:07 am |
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Lady Serenity wrote: Well I have a warrior/rogue on venice so I think i could help.
Warrior 2h- They're good in pvp and I believe they're best job would be hunter for the kd would be good to suprise a hunter or trader and they down attack increase could finish them off easily. Though in party's, due to early set stereo-types and how alot of the skills have kd, usually they're the least liked tank. Also they do the best damage of the warriors but with the worst defense. Dual axe- They're also pretty good in pvp and I think they would be best as a trader because of they're high hp, better defense then 2h and stun they can easily take out they're own thieves or possible a player thief. In party's they are great tanks for their medium defense, medium offense, and stun which party members love for it can't attack and unlike kd the wizard can still attack. They have the second best damage and second best defense of the warriors.
Rogue Dual Dagger- Great in pvp for their high damage output and stelth (plus stealth damage bonus when in stealth for daggers only) and I think they're great as a trader and thief due to they're high damage and high hp (and stelth for thief). They're also good in party for they can tank (if needed) or do damage and have speed increase increase incase party member needs help. They have great damage but for a lack of defense. X Bow- Good in pvp when starting from afar and stealth can help get some distance and I believe they're best for nearly all jobs because of they're high range, high hp and good damage plus kb. In party they're good for pulling and doing decent damage. Nice damage, high range, knock back but not the best defense when up close.
Thats my opinions on those builds, hope it helps.
Lady Serenity
WOW! Very thorough. I really appreciate it.
So it seems that dual axe and rogue are fairly similar.
Dual axe have more defense and hp than a rogue?
Which one would you personally prefer?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:24 am |
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paths wrote: Lady Serenity wrote: Well I have a warrior/rogue on venice so I think i could help.
Warrior 2h- They're good in pvp and I believe they're best job would be hunter for the kd would be good to suprise a hunter or trader and they down attack increase could finish them off easily. Though in party's, due to early set stereo-types and how alot of the skills have kd, usually they're the least liked tank. Also they do the best damage of the warriors but with the worst defense. Dual axe- They're also pretty good in pvp and I think they would be best as a trader because of they're high hp, better defense then 2h and stun they can easily take out they're own thieves or possible a player thief. In party's they are great tanks for their medium defense, medium offense, and stun which party members love for it can't attack and unlike kd the wizard can still attack. They have the second best damage and second best defense of the warriors.
Rogue Dual Dagger- Great in pvp for their high damage output and stelth (plus stealth damage bonus when in stealth for daggers only) and I think they're great as a trader and thief due to they're high damage and high hp (and stelth for thief). They're also good in party for they can tank (if needed) or do damage and have speed increase increase incase party member needs help. They have great damage but for a lack of defense. X Bow- Good in pvp when starting from afar and stealth can help get some distance and I believe they're best for nearly all jobs because of they're high range, high hp and good damage plus kb. In party they're good for pulling and doing decent damage. Nice damage, high range, knock back but not the best defense when up close.
Thats my opinions on those builds, hope it helps.
Lady Serenity WOW! Very thorough. I really appreciate it. So it seems that dual axe and rogue are fairly similar. Dual axe have more defense and hp than a rogue? Which one would you personally prefer?
Well, Dual Axe has better defense and stun while rogue has better attack and stealth (dagger skills are amplified when in stealth, not xbow.) Though they both have same hp. Me I prefer rogue farmed for both xbow and dagger because you can varry from time to time in pve and pvp plus you can switch when needed, like when in taklaman xbow would be best but when like in caves daggers would be best (differs by how close mobs are) but rogue doesnt get best till 20 so i say 0 gap it till 20 only doing xbow then gap it from 20 on till you think you have enough sp. Like it has been said before xbow rogues after 20 are like physical nukers.
Again, hope it helps
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:35 am |
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Your info lady serenity really helps. Thanks.
Anyone else want to contribute to the topic?
Still open for discussion.
Bard a good sub for warrior?
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if you want to lv up fast, dont get so much cap, this will make you boring with this game.
if compare dual axe and rogue, the attack and critical rate is much diffrent. dagger get much critical on skill and weapon and also they have the -10%hp attack skill, which is dealing a high amount of Damage. just imagine DD with -10%hp skill. lv38+2 dagger can deal 5k normal dmg, and cri 11k above the most i make is 17k. killing a lv35 plus char. mostly rogue can kill anyone if he laid the first hit, and that is what stealth for.  xbow does not much but the range really an advantage.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:15 am |
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I gave my rogue lvl 10 bard and cleric to get the essential skills (moving march, mana regen, cure, and rez)
Other than that, I want to lvl fast and be able to switch between daggers and xbow. I might consider other masteries if their buffs can stack, otherwise I'll be happy with the rogue skills.
As far as I know, there is very little info about which buffs remain when switching weapons 
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Atsuten wrote: I gave my rogue lvl 10 bard and cleric to get the essential skills (moving march, mana regen, cure, and rez) Other than that, I want to lvl fast and be able to switch between daggers and xbow. I might consider other masteries if their buffs can stack, otherwise I'll be happy with the rogue skills. As far as I know, there is very little info about which buffs remain when switching weapons 
I can't promise this is correct but I believe it is that when it say Uses : "weapon" it will stay when switching but when it says Requires : "weapon" it will not switch over. I can't promise anything but I do believe this is correct.
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Lady Serenity wrote: Atsuten wrote: I gave my rogue lvl 10 bard and cleric to get the essential skills (moving march, mana regen, cure, and rez) Other than that, I want to lvl fast and be able to switch between daggers and xbow. I might consider other masteries if their buffs can stack, otherwise I'll be happy with the rogue skills. As far as I know, there is very little info about which buffs remain when switching weapons  I can't promise this is correct but I believe it is that when it say Uses : "weapon" it will stay when switching but when it says Requires : "weapon" it will not switch over. I can't promise anything but I do believe this is correct.Lady Serenity
some it say uses but not require it still disappear . i think only a few will stay, and bear in mind that version of sro changes might be affect on those skill also.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:07 am |
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I think I have posted this info so many times.
Used Item - buff that WILL stay even though you do switching weapons.
Required Item - Buff WILL NOT stay once you switch weapon.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:27 pm |
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i have played as a s/s 1/h euro and a 2h euro war.
1h: best defense in da game. u'll have no prob tankning lotsa mobs and giants. one time i ws tanking two white-lvl giants and a champion at the same time for 10 mins without goin below 50% hp. just mak sure you have lotsa pots.
but ur dmg sux. and some wizarrd will ks your giant many times. it takes a very long time to solo giants / party mobs. so u must kill giants away from "popular" areas to avoid ks.
oh and since ur defense is hi, you wont need so many hp pots. but u'll drink mp pots like there is no tomorow . u need to cast 1h skills all da time to kill mobs quickly and avoid ks.
2h: quicka to kill mobs than 1h. so u'll lvl faster. kd is very useful with pot delay, but not good in a party since wiz cant kill kded mobs.
um yeh, i think pvp 2h is better then 1h. choose 1h if u like da shield and solo giants or being best tank in da game. 2h is also good for slo, but it is the owrst tank for war.
so yeh
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:26 pm |
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Any dual axe user want to give any further remarks about the build?
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Post subject: Re: You like the Euro Warrior? Tell us your thoughts. Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:37 pm |
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paths wrote: How are these classes: 1-handed sword? Nice i have one. But dont take it when you want dmg2-handed sword? more dmg but i dont like the looks Dual weapon axe? cool build and a real NEW weaponWarrior any good of a character? sureWhat are the pros and cons of each build? 1h= def/ 2h = att/ axe = def and attWhich is the BEST warrior build? THERE IS NO BEST!!!There a difference between 2-h sword and dual weapon axe? 2h does more dmg and axe has equal def and attDoes a warrior deal better overall damage than a warlock? ?What job (hunter, thief, trader) are they good at? **EDIT** Which warrior class is better in PvP (solo and group) and PvE (solo and group)?Lots of questions that need answers.Thanks for your replies.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:39 pm |
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paths wrote: Any dual axe user want to give any further remarks about the build?
- Fast, constant damage.
- Since the majority of the skills strike 2-3 times, the chance of hitting a Critical is higher than 2hand/1hand since they hit once per skill.
- Very nice stun rate for both PvE & PvP
Don't know what else to tell you... not as fast as the rogue, but better defense, and not as strong as the 2handed sword, but faster, and higher crit rate.
It's a balance between the two really.
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