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cool I didn't know that
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Rather short for a thesis.

I glanced over it quickly. You use a lot of "juvenile" sentence structures, makes it sound unnatural and like you were just using a thesaurus in some parts. The reason for this is because you have big-worded sentences, followed by something like this:

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Before the first crusade started the emperor of “Rome” (eastern empire) asked the western empire for help against the Seljuk Turks who where terrorizing the country side and had taken countless cities including the “holy” city of Jerusalem.



Other parts are way too patronizing:

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The svastika was also depicted on the chest of Buddha, founder of Buddhism in Buddhism the svastika is typically used in rituals and ceremonies.

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it was boring but then again it was a high school essay so i should have expected as much but in the first part (the only part i read) it sounds anti-religion so i agree with it :D

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Transitions need a bit of work. Okay word choice for a sophmore in HS I guess. It is extremely short, but I don't remember HS standards XD. Some parts I felt were a bit too subjective rather than objective analysis but eh, it's high school. This well disguised show off thread didn't serve it's purpose, but it's still a decent essay.

Oh, and -15 for using contractions.

-5 for grammar now that I re-read it.

Minus another 5 for stupid use of periods, and stupid use of commas, a.k.a. comma splice.

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Halfway through the 2nd paragraph you bored me to tears with scientific talk so I stopped.

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Halfway through the 2nd paragraph you bored me to tears with scientific talk so I stopped.



correction: ATTEMPT at scientific talk

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dom wrote:
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Halfway through the 2nd paragraph you bored me to tears with scientific talk so I stopped.



correction: ATTEMPT at scientific talk

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The sun keeps the earth at a temperature at which water or H2O will be in its liquid form this liquid water as well as amino acids wouldn’t have escaped the darkness known as earth without the heat of the sun and the molten magma of the core.


That in a historical essay + the grammar mistakes and incoherent sentence flow...

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dom wrote:
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Halfway through the 2nd paragraph you bored me to tears with scientific talk so I stopped.



correction: ATTEMPT at scientific talk

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The sun keeps the earth at a temperature at which water or H2O will be in its liquid form this liquid water as well as amino acids wouldn’t have escaped the darkness known as earth without the heat of the sun and the molten magma of the core.


That in a historical essay + the grammar mistakes and incoherent sentence flow...


liquid water.....water or H20...buddha, the founder of buddhism...

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MANJI...MANIJ!



MANJI!!!!


in Buddhism and the "swastika" is called the manji and you can often find it on many temples with the arrows pointing left....Nazi's pointed it to the right and while you can find the symbol facing both ways in ancient culture its important to note that in Buddhist culture when facing left the symbol is always referred to as the Manji...even more important since the symbols significance was heightened first by those who practiced Buddhism....so as a Buddhist from my point of view your report should be called "Fall of the Manji"


also your report kinda went off on a tangent with the whole crusade section, i get the point you were trying to make but a whole paragraph on it seems to steer away from the actual point of the essay but it hink its good work for a sophomore depending on the lvl of the class if i handed that in sophomore year i probably would've gotten a B-


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110 for that in the fifth form?????what was it out of?

mistakes at a glance:
*Your paragraphs were not SEXI
*You either need to seperate conclusion into a seperate paragraph, or you need to write one.
*Swastika is a proper noun therefore needs capitals.
*If you are going to called it Swastika call it that the whole way, don't go svastika and then next time you go Swastika
*Do not introduce more than one idea with each paragraph.

Since it's English essay I assume you were not asked for citations.
There were some bits I had doubt with but assuming you are in America by your spelling I let it go because maybe they do stuff differently.
But anyways, from a brief skim read you did not revise it after writing, probably wrote in half an hour after reading a wiki article

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FALL OF SVASTIKA
By: Gbadehan, Ademola

Swastika, an auspicious image of great power revered world wide as a symbol of good luck, good will, good behavior, and the sun, has been tarnished, but by whom and why. Hitler and his Nazis chose the swastika to connect with a long gone Aryan past, but in the process turned a symbol aged thousands of years into a sign of death and anti-Semitism. In mien-kaumphf(it's Mein Kampf meaning my struggles) Hitler reveals his design for his swastika, a red black svastika inscribed in a white circle with a crimson red background. This swastika is the swastika westerners have grown to know hate and fear. Whilst in eastern country’s, like India, China, and Japan the swastika stands for good luck, good will, good behavior, and the sun. Because of the atrocity known as world war two thousands are ignorant of an honored past a past that may never return.
Svastika is a symbol commonly associated with Hitler and his military machine, but the holocaust and Nazism are not the only sides of this honorable image. Some where(I'd have just said in Persia making it sound more definite and make the teacher read and think you know what your talking about) in Persia an astronomer noticed the revolution of the sun and assigned the life giving sun a symbol this symbol was swastika. "The sun is a floating ball of gas, but also a main factor in life on earth, for without it life as man knows it would not be possible. The sun keeps the earth at a temperature at which water or H2O will be in its liquid form this liquid water as well as amino acids wouldn’t(No colloquialism, should have known better) have escaped the darkness known as earth without the heat of the sun and the molten magma of the core. The sun is an important factor in photosynthesis; without the sun photosynthesis wouldn’t(colloquialism) have started and man or life possibly may have not evolved."(That is irrelevant to your original topic and you spoke too much of it would have been marked down ) By using deductive reasoning the ancients (Persians Indians Mayans Chinese Slavs Germans Aryans Armenians Arabs Syrians Greeks Romans Egyptians etc… (do not use etc unless you've said etcetera before and what is ...? Mark down)) were able to deduce that the sun was the cause of life and naturally worshipped(spelling error) the sun or in some cases the sky, this would later lead to the foundations of religion (of the religion? is that what you meant, from what I am aware swastika is part of buddhism and by no mean is it the foundations of buddhism I may be wrong, but that not that it should be that isanother story. Because of this sun worship the svastika (image of the sun) received an equal if not greater amount of worship.
This svastika reverence was not only native to Persia, but also India. In India the svastika was adopted by 3 ( not 3 it's three anything under 10 in formal writing must not be written in figures this is basic stuff.)religions; the Jains, Buddhist and Hindus. The Hindus used the svastika in a similar way as the Persians symbolizing the revolving sun, but also symbolizing good will towards others, and good luck. This form of the svastika which could be inverted (counter-clockwise) was seen on the bands of fighter pilots during world war one, and at one point in American history was (world war one) actually encouraged; sadly immediately after world war two the use of svastika was discontinued.
The svastika was also depicted on the chest of Buddha, founder of Buddhism in Buddhism the svastika is typically used in rituals and ceremonies. In Jainism the swastika is depicted on the symbol for Jainism similar to the way Christians depict the crucifix.
Svastika as shown above also has a religious heritage, but how is it possible that one man’s reign (Hitler’s) could devastate it so ([b]devastate it so? incomplete sentence? :?[b]), yet the Christian crucifix’s blemished past hasn’t effected its reverence in anyway. To more deeply understand this hypocritical paradox to the crusades you shall travel to the crusades and beyond.



I stopped reading, I surely hope this was assessed out of 150+ .
So if you wanted to see everyones reactions and go back to the teachers for more marks, I suggest you don't.
If you want help and critique on your essays etc. Don't post it on a gaming forum, go to some academical forum.


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That's generous.


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That's generous.


C/C+ if the teacher doesn't like you!



isn't it like that everywhere :?


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I agree with pretty much everything written so far. Don't get defensive; there's some very good advice there. I would advise that you write down your theme somewhere and constantly refer to it. There seems to be a lot of irrelevant material in your essay. In fact, it seems like it was a 1000 word essay, you wrote 750 words, thought you were done, and then went back and had to add a bunch of meaningless words/sentences to get the length up. It's fine for a high school sophomore, I guess. I'd probably give you a C+/B-.

EDIT: If you are a non-native English speaker going to school in a non-English speaking country, then actually the essay is very good. If you aren't writing a persuasive essay and are just exercising your English skills, then I would give you a high grade. Even in my fourth year of French, I don't think I could have written an essay in French this well.


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Hopefully the guy who grades it isn't a close-minded recluse.

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loler: attempt at posting schoolwork in hopes of being praised and showing off = fail

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i wasnt trying to show off

i actually thought i would get an F
cause i bull shitted the whole essay, it wasnt in mla format, i didnt use correct terms i used low brow vocab

my mom even said it sucks (she used to be an english teacher)
no citations (other than a few wikipedia ones for the WW2 junk)

lol i used wikipedia (we know how much that sucks)
and i just needed a way to explain why persians would worship the sun hence the h20 junk.

also i wanted to show how people are like sheep
crucifix vs swastika hitler and his men wore both.

also the reason the teacher was so generous was cause it was normal english, and i always answered questions

this year im taking ap, and i have a 53 in that class and its 2 late to transfer 2 honors

and yes it was done in like 30 mins

the grading was like this

0 - 110 for essay
0 - 110 for citations
0 - 110 for something that i forgot
seperate grades

and my grade was

110
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average went from a good 90 to a low 70

oh and do you know any academic forums i dont feel like using google

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Where are your paragraphs? And you should double check all your facts before putting them down.


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Bless you?

Where are your paragraphs? And you should double check all your facts before putting them down.


this forum took away my paragraphs and double space
its 5 paragraphs ( basic 5 paragraph format cause im lazy)

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lol... I don't know why people do it.

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lol if you have to create something based on Wiki stuff, better rephrase the sentences so the style isn't so interrupted. I don't know what a 110 equals to, but I think teachers I had would have spotted the fake in it and do some research and maybe get the F you think you deserved. Although I usually took my time to write my own stuff, because there is a difference between doing "research" and copy/paste ^^

Besides that, it is okay for an essay in your grade I guess. Although I have no clue why it had to be that topic, but tastes differ.

P.S.: lol @ your creative way of writing Mein Kampf...

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(should be an F i bullshitted the whole essay and half of it is wikified) but i want to see what other people think of it so here it is (its meh i think i shouldve gotten an F)


If you received 110/330 then, by my math, you did get an F.


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(should be an F i bullshitted the whole essay and half of it is wikified) but i want to see what other people think of it so here it is (its meh i think i shouldve gotten an F)


If you received 110/330 then, by my math, you did get an F.

Think it's weighted.

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You guys are being a little harsh.....he's not in college he's in freakin high school...and a sophomore at that...i think half the stuff i wrote back then was

20%- Me
70%-Wiki
10%-Various other forms of plagiarism


It would take some kind of a go-getter of a student to write a full 5 paragraph essay from scratch in there second year of high school. I know SRF isn't full of geniuses or straight A+ students so give the guy a break.


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Wikipedia didn't exist when I was in high school. Not until late junior year I think. We had to BS papers the old way lol, with pure imagination.

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Wikipedia didn't exist when I was in high school. Not until late junior year I think. We had to BS papers the old way lol, with pure imagination.


Me neither. Back then it was easier to BS, teachers were too lazy to check your sources. Now they just look on wiki =\

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Wikipedia didn't exist when I was in high school. Not until late junior year I think. We had to BS papers the old way lol, with pure imagination.


Me neither. Back then it was easier to BS, teachers were too lazy to check your sources. Now they just look on wiki =\


Hmm. At my school, teachers are starting to get pissed if you cite Wiki. I don't know for certain if they use it themselves, but they might start marking kids down for using it.

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Teacher do mark kids off for wikipedia for even normal homework here at my school. If it was something more important you get failed for wikipedia unless you have other sources.

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You guys are being a little harsh.....he's not in college he's in freakin high school...and a sophomore at that...i think half the stuff i wrote back then was

Dude he's a sophomore, this is definitely not being harsh.

[quote=Barotix]this forum took away my paragraphs and double space
its 5 paragraphs ( basic 5 paragraph format cause im lazy)[/quote]
I saw your indented paragraphs in quote. But your last paragraph (which should be conclusion) is around 3 times your introduction, wasn't that great a conclusion really.

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