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Hmm torture them for what purpose? information?

yes

imagine:

you arrested a terrorist who placed a bomb in the middle of Times Square. He knows where the bomb is but he won't tell you. The bomb will explode within 24 hours, and when it does, thousands of innocent people will die.

What would you do ? I think i would use torture methods.

In extreme cases like that, yes. But if you use examples like that you can win in most arguments.

wouldn't you use torture methods just to safe one innocent life ?

Would the torture kill the other person?

The thing I'm trying to say is that the shit the US does is like hooking wires up to prisoners, standing them up against a board and saying if they moved they would be electrocuted and leave them there for hours while the wires are hook up to nothing.

interesting you call people like those '' persons ''. If they are guilty indeed, I'd rather call them '' monsters ''

it's too inhuman to me. Torture should NEVER be used..

But here's another question, do you think Psychological torture should be allowed?

No that can be worse in some cases.

-Going to bed now, will check when I wake up if you have a counter argument.-

I would torture them. Ther extremists

if those terrorists who killed 3000 americans on 9/11 were alive and captured don't you think the families of the victims would want them to suffer? I would

I am going to get straight to the point. Something is terribly wrong with media coverage of the war in Iraq. The media hysteria about Iraq and the prisoners reached a crescendo last Friday when another network breathlessly disclosed that American guards at Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad had stomped on the toes of suspected Iraqi terrorists to make them more likely to talk about murders of Americans and innocent Iraqis in Iraq.

This toe stomping was treated as a stunning revelation of American brutality. It was added to the torrent of hysteria about photos of nude Iraqis piling on each other and a nude Iraqi being led by a woman soldier with a leash. All of this --according to the media and some in Congress --is supposed to show that America is itself a terrorist nation and that we are really no different from the terrorists.

This is dangerous nonsense.

Here is what is important. This conflict started because a group of Islamic fundamentalist mass murderers killed three thousand totally innocent civilians on September 11, 2001. We did nothing to provoke it except in the terrorists' crazy brains. We had to fight back. That's why we went into Afghanistan and used harsh methods to get answers out of captured Al Qaeda there. To prevent more 9/11's.

Does the media think you just plunk down your card on a silver tray and the terrorists talk? Do they think we get useful information out of hardened terrorists by polite questioning? What do the media think we did in Vietnam? What do they think the Israelis do to find out about terrorism? What do they think the British did in Northern Ireland? Fighting terrorists is a brutal business.

Now, we're in Iraq. Once we're there, we have to protect innocent life from terrorists. That means interrogating prisoners whom we think are terrorists. Sometimes harshly. But we are the good guys. We saved Iraq from a dictator a billion times worse than anything we do there. The people who murder our soldiers and civilians and mutilate them just because the Americans are trying to help rebuild Iraq--those killers are the bad guys.
The media plays up endlessly fraternity boy mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. Yes, it does not look good. And some of it is genuinely bad. The media goes wild about those things. But where is the fuller story? What about the thousands of Iraqis who were tortured to death, who had their eyes cut out, who were surgically mutilated, who were raped, starved, had gasoline poured down their throats and then were set on fire by the Saddam Hussein regime at the same prison? Why don't we ever hear about them? What about the Americans –– military and civilian––who have taken Iraqis mutilated by Saddam and sent them to America for prosthesis for free? Why don't we hear about them on TV?

Why don't we hear more about the families of the four U.S. contractors who were murdered and their bodies mutilated in Falluja by terrorists ? They have been totally forgotten.

Let me ask the media and the Congress a question: might it have been worth stomping on a terrorist's fingers and toes and depriving him of sleep to find out who murdered those four men in Falluja. And making sure they didn't do it again?

Media, Congress, get it straight: The US is the main repository of decency on this earth. And we are a powerful nation. The Al Qaeda can never defeat us if we are united. But we can defeat ourselves if we begin to think we are the enemy and lose our confidence in our cause.

Let's be clear: there is no moral equivalency between us and the terrorists. We're the good guys, and if we lose because we didn't play hard enough, it's the end of everything good in our world.

interesting you call people like those '' persons ''. If they are guilty indeed, I'd rather call them '' monsters ''

That's a matter of opinion.
What is a terrorist to one, is a fighter for freedom to another.

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Torture is a wrong thing to do. And those methods shouldn't be used by anyone, not -in this situation- the USA, nor the terrorists.

how can someone that kills innocent people be a freedom fighter ? A freedom fighter is someone who fights against a force that is occupieng his country.