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Crni_Vatreni
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Post subject: Help please: Expirienced Bladers, click HERE! Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:23 pm |
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Err, hi. I'm a lvl 75 blader. Gap is 0, but all the skills are at lvl68, except flying stone lvl1 and lighting chain lvl1. I was thinking to lvl up to 77, then gap 9 farming, but I've been thinking about lvling up to lvl80, and then all skills at 71 gap 9 farming, which would allow me to use flying stone. Bleed is very useful for party mobs, but I dont know will u gain very less sp at lvl80.
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1) lvl77, skills at 69, gap 9 farming
2) lvl80, skills at 71, gap 9 farming with bleed.
Which one is better? Will I gain more sp/3hrs at lvl80 or at lvl77?
Oh, and I do have enough sp to lvl up the skills 68->71.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:24 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:29 pm |
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OwnedByFudge wrote: 80.
NO. farm now
dont sp farm alone so the whole party thing is not that important, because you get help anyway you simply will be less effective in the group so make sure you stay awake and take care on the tanking part
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:37 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:39 pm |
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Hitler wrote: 80
I suggest you to change your forumname.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:48 pm |
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MrBow wrote: Hitler wrote: 80 I suggest you to change your forumname.
+1 I take offense to that and I fit the "Arian Race". It doesn't matter, because I find it offensive either way. It's like someone with the Forum Name with the N word or a stereotypical or racist name.
On Topic: 80 because at least you can have fun with Bleed.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:58 pm |
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farm at snipers/hunters more/better drops there...
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Crni_Vatreni
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:55 pm |
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borat2 wrote: OwnedByFudge wrote: 80. NO. farm now dont sp farm alone so the whole party thing is not that important, because you get help anyway you simply will be less effective in the group so make sure you stay awake and take care on the tanking part
I'm in a guild full of bladers. My fellas have been farming at 77, gap 9. It proved party grinding is a total waste of PT/SPT. They both took maximum 2k sp/3hrs, while alone it's 3k-3.5k. So I'm gonna grind alone, either on 77 or 80.
At lvl80, I will kill way more faster, but I'll gain less per kill.
At lvl77, I am slower with the killing, but the gain is better.
What I wanna know is what will be more effective, so please, dont guess. I need opinion of those who have tried either way.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:55 am |
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Crni_Vatreni wrote: borat2 wrote: OwnedByFudge wrote: 80. NO. farm now dont sp farm alone so the whole party thing is not that important, because you get help anyway you simply will be less effective in the group so make sure you stay awake and take care on the tanking part I'm in a guild full of bladers. My fellas have been farming at 77, gap 9. It proved party grinding is a total waste of PT/SPT. They both took maximum 2k sp/3hrs, while alone it's 3k-3.5k. So I'm gonna grind alone, either on 77 or 80. At lvl80, I will kill way more faster, but I'll gain less per kill. At lvl77, I am slower with the killing, but the gain is better. What I wanna know is what will be more effective, so please, dont guess. I need opinion of those who have tried either way.
well that actually makes no sense, cause blader has the lowest dmg and kills the slowest, if you can get into a GOOD 8man general with nukers, archers, and glaviers and a cleric buffer the exp should be a lot better than solo.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:56 am |
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i am not guessing, share pt: at least 4 nukers or even better with euro int based builds.
you will gain more at 77 if you use a sun, lower level, decent damage with a good party will give you more than solo at any coming level.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:30 am |
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Orotiagito wrote: Work your way up to a 7 Gap at 80....Lv 73 masteries.
With 7 Gap you get 2 advantages, which you don't have with a 9 gap.
-Lv 72 9% Fire Buff -Lv 73 Lightning Chain
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thats my planned farming gap
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Crni_Vatreni
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:37 am |
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raged! wrote: Crni_Vatreni wrote: borat2 wrote: OwnedByFudge wrote: 80. NO. farm now dont sp farm alone so the whole party thing is not that important, because you get help anyway you simply will be less effective in the group so make sure you stay awake and take care on the tanking part I'm in a guild full of bladers. My fellas have been farming at 77, gap 9. It proved party grinding is a total waste of PT/SPT. They both took maximum 2k sp/3hrs, while alone it's 3k-3.5k. So I'm gonna grind alone, either on 77 or 80. At lvl80, I will kill way more faster, but I'll gain less per kill. At lvl77, I am slower with the killing, but the gain is better. What I wanna know is what will be more effective, so please, dont guess. I need opinion of those who have tried either way. well that actually makes no sense, cause blader has the lowest dmg and kills the slowest, if you can get into a GOOD 8man general with nukers, archers, and glaviers and a cleric buffer the exp should be a lot better than solo. Oh trust me, most of the share parties suck bigtime, cuz so many leechers/botswithsuckyweaps/noobs. A guildie lvl77 tried party grinding, and it's no good for farm. He gains more in a distro party. Oh he has a sun blade. So do I. The very best gain is in a good party, which is hard to find. My job in a party is to lure, not to grind. The thing I dislike in party grinding is too many factors changing my income. That's why I like it on my own. Still, I'll test it all. If I decide for party farm, it'll be 77. If it's soloing, then it's 80. Am I right? Zappa wrote: The earlier you farm for sp the better. Also, how did you get your blader to level 75? I cant even get mine past 31  . Been playin for a long time now. Orotiagito wrote: Work your way up to a 7 Gap at 80....Lv 73 masteries.
With 7 Gap you get 2 advantages, which you don't have with a 9 gap.
-Lv 72 9% Fire Buff -Lv 73 Lightning Chain
Gap 7 and gap 9 is a drastic difference in sp gain. Tho I love lightning chain.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:38 am |
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Farm at 77. Why? The dmg difference between 69 and 71 skills is irrelevant, but you will get way more sp and xp killing generals at 77 than at 80, you would also get way more in a party 8 level 78-80s because of the double xp deal, compared to the xp at 80, when you party with a bunch of lvl 80's.
At 77, you can efficiently farm on hunters, which are way easier to kill than generals and their eviL block and stun crap. At 80 you will get crappy xp from hunters and will have to deal with the block and stun all the time.
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Crni_Vatreni
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:52 am |
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torinchibi wrote: Farm at 77. Why? The dmg difference between 69 and 71 skills is irrelevant, but you will get way more sp and xp killing generals at 77 than at 80, you would also get way more in a party 8 level 78-80s because of the double xp deal, compared to the xp at 80, when you party with a bunch of lvl 80's.
At 77, you can efficiently farm on hunters, which are way easier to kill than generals and their eviL block and stun crap. At 80 you will get crappy xp from hunters and will have to deal with the block and stun all the time.
That's interesting... Wow!
At 77, should I be soloing pt mob hunters, or share xp pt would be better? Would u get more then 3k sp/3hrs by doing this? Did u farm this way?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:18 am |
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ThisIsAvalon wrote: Stay at lvl 77, but raise mastery to 71. Farm 6 gap, then 7 gap then 8 gap then if you still need sp, 9 gap. 
Bump. Use that.
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Crni_Vatreni
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:08 am |
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ThisIsAvalon wrote: ThisIsAvalon wrote: Stay at lvl 77, but raise mastery to 71. Farm 6 gap, then 7 gap then 8 gap then if you still need sp, 9 gap.  Bump. Use that.
No tnx. It's either 0 or 9.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:09 am |
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Well technically at 80 u can farm at shamans too.....with sun blade you would own em...sp would be a bit less tho
im just gunna 7 gap cuz i cant kill glaivers without division...and i dont need too much sp.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:28 am |
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I think you should travel back i time and farm at like 72 for like 60k sp then farm at 80.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:57 am |
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lv80 because one ur 80 and 2 bleeeeeed my 80 blader is fire imbue so that +bleed is very good but as u should alreaddy u should have farmed at a lower lv idealy 16 but whenever u cap new wep+9gap oh yeh
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:30 am |
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Pretty farked up choice. Poll is saying 80, but atm I'm a little more for 77.
Keep writing, humans! >=(
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:37 am |
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77 for the reasons listed already.
Mainly due to the fact that if your 77, it raises the chance that your grinding pt's average level is below the mobs level and you will get double exp/sp from party mobs.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:35 am |
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tedtwilliger wrote: 77 for the reasons listed already.
Mainly due to the fact that if your 77, it raises the chance that your grinding pt's average level is below the mobs level and you will get double exp/sp from party mobs.
What the hell? @_@
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:04 pm |
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Crni_Vatreni wrote: tedtwilliger wrote: 77 for the reasons listed already.
Mainly due to the fact that if your 77, it raises the chance that your grinding pt's average level is below the mobs level and you will get double exp/sp from party mobs. What the hell? @_@
Ok, situation. You off grinding on lvl 77 mobs in a exp share party full of 6 lvl 77 chars, a lvl 76 character and you.
Now if you were level 80, he average level of the pt is 6 x 77 + 76 + 80 / 8 = 77.25
Now thats > 77 so you only get 4x the exp from pt mobs ( i think it works like this, thought it may have to be 78 for it to work, i need citation on that )
Now if you were level 77, the average level of the pt = 77 x 7 + 76 / 8 =
76.87500
Now thats < 77 = you get 8 times the exp from a party mob when in a share party.
The lower level you are, the greater chance that you will be in a party that will get this extra bonus. And to be honest you'd prob grind on the same mobs anyway..
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:19 pm |
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tedtwilliger wrote: Crni_Vatreni wrote: tedtwilliger wrote: 77 for the reasons listed already.
Mainly due to the fact that if your 77, it raises the chance that your grinding pt's average level is below the mobs level and you will get double exp/sp from party mobs. What the hell? @_@ Ok, situation. You off grinding on lvl 77 mobs in a exp share party full of 6 lvl 77 chars, a lvl 76 character and you. Now if you were level 80, he average level of the pt is 6 x 77 + 76 + 80 / 8 = 77.25 Now thats > 77 so you only get 4x the exp from pt mobs ( i think it works like this, thought it may have to be 78 for it to work, i need citation on that ) Now if you were level 77, the average level of the pt = 77 x 7 + 76 / 8 = 76.87500 Now thats < 77 = you get 8 times the exp from a party mob when in a share party. The lower level you are, the greater chance that you will be in a party that will get this extra bonus. And to be honest you'd prob grind on the same mobs anyway..
Woot! Awesome. I'll be at generals. So lvl77 it is?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:48 pm |
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Farming with a gap < 9 is just a pain. Don't do it.
Either it's 0 gap, or it's 9 gap imo.
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