Invisibility vs Stealth

destructionmama · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 1509 **Location:** There

So what's the difference between Invisibility and Stealth?

Is it two different things? or is it jsut the same?

maybe rogues can fill us in on this one.

Is it useful in pvp or pve?

what do you guys think?

Archon · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 11 **Location:**

They essentially do the same thing - hide the user, but they both require a different method of detection. They are both useful, because having that extra couple seconds because of a surprise attack can mean the difference between life and death.

Rainigul · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4490 **Location:**

Invisibility makes the whole party invisible, whilst stealth makes only the player invisible.

Archon · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 11 **Location:**

[SD]Rainigul wrote:

Invisibility makes the whole party invisible, whilst stealth makes only the player invisible.

Isn't it only the level 80 invisibility skill that turns the whole party invisible?

destructionmama · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 1509 **Location:** There

then is it important for Fire users to max both the detect skill?

Does Stealth and INvisibility work on mobs? as in the mobs can't see you when you are in stealth?

Sylhana · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3467 **Location:**

One you cant see, the other tries very hard not to get seen

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Archon · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 11 **Location:**

destructionmama wrote:

then is it important for Fire users to max both the detect skill?

Does Stealth and INvisibility work on mobs? as in the mobs can't see you when you are in stealth?

Yes, it would be a good skill to max for people who use the fire force. As far as I know, mobs don't detect you when you are stealthed, but I think they don't detect you when you are invisible either.

jabbers · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:00 am

do the fire 'detection' skills work like a buff, I dont really get that because I used them and got this long cool-down timer going but no buff icon shows up. How do you know if it's working and can someone in stealth tell if you have it activated?

Zypher · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 8705 **Location:** Canada

jabbers wrote:

do the fire 'detection' skills work like a buff, I dont really get that because I used them and got this long cool-down timer going but no buff icon shows up. How do you know if it's working and can someone in stealth tell if you have it activated?

if someone is close to u, like a 10m range and u do it, they show up on ur screen

Sylhana · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3467 **Location:**

jabbers wrote:

do the fire 'detection' skills work like a buff, I dont really get that because I used them and got this long cool-down timer going but no buff icon shows up. How do you know if it's working and can someone in stealth tell if you have it activated?

Am not sure how it works, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think when you use it any stealth or invisible player within your range gets the effect (like a status) and they can't go to stealth or be invisible while in effect (if the stealth or invisible detection was high enough).

jabbers · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:08 am

so they have to be in range in order for it to work ..and it is a one-time pulse kind of effect? ....that's terrible

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

Can you move while invisible?

I think the stealth one I saw form a low lvl thief rogue, he was following me lol, talking, normally I wouldn't of killed him but I was on a trade run lol, had guily bring me some detect pots and found him ;x, didn't want him bringing other thieves ya know lol.

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

which euro can have both these skills?

Meow · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1872 **Location:**

Yes you can move when you are invisible.
Only your party can see you when you are invisible though..
Monsters don't attack when you use that skill, which is cool

Rogue = Stealth // Wizard = Invisibilty

jabbers · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:58 am

thatd be funny if you could just move the cursor over the empty space around you and find them like that or hit them with AoE damage start nuking wildly maybe

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:28 am

Does rouge de-stealth work on Wizards? cause i have destealth up to lvl 3 and i still can't see wizards that are like 36-39 when they go invis

ineedhelp · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1137 **Location:**

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Is it useful in pvp or pve?

yea monsters never see you and in pvp um rouge has a skill that does more phy in stealth mode so u get to do 1 attack with extra damage then just do your normal 1,2,3 key xD also its cool that when you use stealth in pvp u dont get hit by light nuke or fire wide the ice nuke wide so i like it cause usually when i dont use stealth lvl 80 ppl just pick on me now they cant see me i just run around and wacth them fight with out dieing =]

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Does rouge de-stealth work on Wizards? cause i have destealth up to lvl 3 and i still can't see wizards that are like 36-39 when they go invis

nope u can only see rouges with destealth :S

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thatd be funny if you could just move the cursor over the empty space around you and find them like that or hit them with AoE damage start nuking wildly maybe

hahah u cant i went stealth around nukers none of the nukes hit me

and that fire detetct skill has a cool down so if theres 2 rouges around you and u use it and u only detected 1 the other one is just sneaking up on you

fire detect has cool down pwn

139022 · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 858 **Location:**

i think invisibilty should be removed when doing jobs. whenever im out being a thief or a hunter, a thief/hunter comes from no where and takes me out in 2 hits with his damn crossbow! :banghead:

argh!! and im so damn jealous that my lvl 21 cousin came over for a week and we started to be hunters, he killed about 3 thieves and got 47% hunter exp!!! is that even possible?

nphillip · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1012 **Location:**

its the same .. except one is for rogues and the other is for clerics XD

Stompy · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 112 **Location:**

Stealth Works great for PvP. In jobbing, it does wonders.

Invisiblity works good too. They are the same i think, i dont got a wiz so im not to sure.

Stealth, has one downfall, and that is that you cannot move very fast, and if you use a skill you unstealth.

jabbers · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:17 am

theres another fire detection skill that is just for invisibility I guess.. lol rogues got cool skills

streetrobban · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 543 **Location:**

Hi!

Im wondering if you pet(s) also get stealth? I guess so right?

X_Hell_X · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

if rogues cant detect wizards can wizards detect rogues?

Cresta · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:09 pm

DarkJackal wrote:

Can you move while invisible?

I think the stealth one I saw form a low lvl thief rogue, he was following me lol, talking, normally I wouldn't of killed him but I was on a trade run lol, had guily bring me some detect pots and found him ;x, didn't want him bringing other thieves ya know lol.

Happened to me too
I was trading with my guild. I knew there was a euro thief in stealth following us because he appeared and disappeared fast again. One time i just was waiting him up and when he appeared he did wait a bit too long to disappear again and boom shout. he was dead

soxdrop · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:50 pm

yep crossbow rogue pretty much pwns in jobs with stealth since the detect range is maximum 15 meter and they can even get 35+ meter shots

pyrogenic · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 54

X_Hell_X wrote:

if rogues cant detect wizards can wizards detect rogues?

if i see firetraps with destealth i think i can see wizards with destealth again :roll:

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